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Thread: MG34 for Obers comes too late!19 Sep 2019, 03:22 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Sep 2019, 00:39 AMGI John 412 Sorry for what is about to be a “long winded history essay”, but I feel inclined to correct this. The Volkssturm was the German militia and consisted of the stereotypical young boys and old men. These are not in the game. The term Volksgrenadier came about in late 1944 and continued to be used throughout the rest of the war as a term for the new German infantry units. These Volksgrenadier Battalions were a reorganization of Grenadier Battalions. Not all Grenadier Battalions got reorganized though. There were numerous organizational changes from 1939-1945 that included renaming units from Infantrie Battalions, to Grenadier Battalions to Volksgrenadier Battalions. Most of the early changes were in name only, but the significant changes from Grenadier to Volksgrenadier Battalion included removing horses and adding bicycles where possible to recon units and reorganizing the composition of the infantry companies in the battalion. These new companies had one regular platoon and two “Machine Pistol” platoons. The Machine Pistol platoons each had one regular squad with an LMG42 but the other two squads had more men, no LMG and were supposed to all be armed with machine pistols. The MP40 or StG44 we’re both considered machine pistols for this purpose but not enough were available so the actual composition looked a lot like what we see in game with a mix of StG44s and Kar98ks in the hands of Volksgrenadiers. Further reading is linked below. Cheers! https://web.archive.org/web/20091228172755/http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/German/Infanterie/volks_grenadier_battalion%201944%20to%201945.htm Thank you for that. Losts of people confuse Volksgrenadiers with Volksstrums. The former were usually experienced and well equipped units, the latter were basically just a militia of random civilians. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pak40 death loop buff?19 Sep 2019, 03:15 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Sep 2019, 02:56 AMCombCrab All at guns have deathloop, so I don't see why pak40 needs special treatment for having it. Well it's an Axis unit, they always deserve special treatment. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Easy 8 is useless, should get some improvement.19 Sep 2019, 03:14 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Sep 2019, 03:02 AMGI John 412 The Easy Eight is fine. It’s got good armor, good penetration, good health and a good top MG. It’s a jack of all trades unit that’s better than most too. It scales really well when used in groups too. It’s not as good at AT compared to a Jackson, and not as good at AI as a 75mm Sherman on HE rounds, but two Easy Eights are better than one Sherman and one Jackson at both AI and AT when used together. If there is one thing I've learned its that this game doesn't do "jack of all trades" units very well at all. The best "jack of all trades" unit is probably the regular Sherman. So, two Easy 8s cost 760 MP and 280 fuel, that's a lot, that's a friggen King Tiger. This is not really a spamable /blobbable vehicle, it's expensive. So needing more than one to be effective points to it's poor design. The Panzer IV is a better example of a good all around unit. It's deadly against infantry and pretty good against most vehiclea (also seems to come out REALLY fast). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Easy 8 is useless, should get some improvement.19 Sep 2019, 02:55 AM I am not sure what the point of the Easy 8 is exactly. But lately it just doesn't do anything well. It's absolutely terrible against infantry sqauds and it's decent against vehicles but not nearly as good as a Jackson and it costs almost as much so why even build the thing? It should have HE shells or something like WP shells. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pak40 death loop buff?19 Sep 2019, 02:49 AM What are you even talking about? Deathloop for a PAK40? That's just called normal run of the mill death. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Maxim improvement ideas.19 Sep 2019, 02:47 AM Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2019, 19:59 PMgbem Id just buff the maxims suppression to axis hmg levels and be done with it... with good suppression frontally charging the maxim would no longer be viable as with any other mg... LOL like they'd ever make an Allied unit like that equal to it's Axis counterpart. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Why is there so much crying over Maxim spam?18 Sep 2019, 16:47 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2019, 16:16 PMFarlion False on all counts. It is significantly faster than the MG42. Second, you can't have a six man, fast deploying MG squad on top of good suppression. If you don't like the Maxim, there's always the Dhsk. MG42 spam is much worse than Maxim for the following reasons: - The MG42 is available immediately and requires no teching or building construction whatsoever - The MG42 has a much wider arch than a Maxim and pins instantly in almost every situation - The MG42 in fact is considered the best MG in the game when all it's stats and abilities are taken into account - despite being the best MG in the game it's also among the cheapest (only Maxim is cheaper) and is only 1 of 2 that is available immediately In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Balance Inconsistencies, some required changes18 Sep 2019, 15:55 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Sep 2019, 11:57 AMBalanced_Gamer Riflemen were good. It is just the unbalance with the MP and the cost efficiency of Volks that made Riflemen feel inferior. Just feel. Why did Riflemen need a buff anyway? That I dont quite understand to be honest. Riflemen in theory were supposed to be superior units to Genadiers and Volksgrenadiers and technically they were just looking at raw stats but in practice that superiority never manifested itself (especially against Volksgrenadiers) until the unit was fully upgraded and vetted very late into the game. This was due to a combination of game mechanics, unit abilities, and RNG. Riflemen preformance suffered from the weapon rack game mechanic having to retreat to get the upgrade plus along with this you risk the loss of the upgrade as it could lost when dropped and end up in the hands of your enemy. In contrast Volksgrens had the dual STG44 upgrade available without requiring retreat and without being able to be dropped (alson without requiring a side tech). With this it really made no sense for Riflemen to cost significantly more than Volksgres. They did better against Grens but the purchase price for Grens was even lower than Volksgrens so you could still get out blobbed by them. The other issue was abilities. All Riflmen abilities either require a side tech or vet. Not so with either Grens or Volksgrens. This swung the balance highly in the favor of the other two units. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Balance Inconsistencies, some required changes18 Sep 2019, 04:19 AM Riflemen definitely needed a buff they were a terrible terrible unit to have to depend on and the worst part of it is that they're really all you get when the game starts so if they suck then the whole faction suffers which it did. They couldn't even consistently kill Volksgrens 1v1 and consistently lost when attacking them behind sandbags. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The maxim vs mg42 argument18 Sep 2019, 03:11 AM I wouldn't have made my previous thread had I saw this one first. Anyway, HMG42 spam is probably 10x worse than the Maxim spam. The damn thing is only 260 MP AND its available right away AND its got the widest arc AND it's got the most suppression AND it's got the best AP abilities behind vet AND it doesn't take much to vet. Now inspite of all that I don't think it should be nerfed but no way in hell should it be a starting T0 unit. The HMG42 is, was, and always will be a permanent fking cancer on the a of this game. But lets nerf the Bofors just because. In: COH2 Balance