Profile of Rosbone

Have to agree. The whole reason I play CoH over shit like Starcraft 2 (or whatever its called) or Age of Empires is because I have more fun with the tactics part more than the "ooga booga me build worker to mine fart gas and unobtanium crystals to build 100 flying units and A move them to enemy" part.

Bro! Stop. Now I have to debate for the next 3 hours who had the more based post today: You or Protos.

Thanks guys for these great posts! But dont feel limited to my questions. Any insights into mechanics that should be considered when making a map are needed!

Much Love

COVER
Other thoughts might be use of green cover for example. It seems like TTK and grenade debuffs makes green cover weaker. So more green cover is OK in Coh3.

From a mappers view, this is a good thing because every faction having a vehicle means any yellow cover you put down will be destroyed 2 minutes into the game. Coh3 also seems to let small arms fire destroy cover objects which is a horrible idea. Makes sense why every map is wide open with only green cover.

ROADS
Coh3 lacks red cover roads but has ways to give speed bonus. Is it still a bad idea to have a speed bonus road leading straight back to your base when retreating units?

What has actually changed that people are saying Coh3 is good now for team games? They finally fixed up the menu and added replays. It looks like a real game finally.

Team players like Dirty Finisher and Duffman feel like Coh3 is lacking too many mechanics. These are upper echelon players so their tastes may be different than 90% of the player base.

Aerafield is a top player and his complaint (see above) is the game feels like it peters out mid game. Its like playing Coh2 only to 15 minutes then stopping.

I state that Coh3 does not provide the necessary feedback to players, mechanics and sound.

LACK OF MECHANICS
Coh3 allows you to just blob. This is not engaging. This does not create exciting dynamic interplay. It does not "feel" as good to a player to A-Move a blob into another blob. The "good" play feedback comes from moving units tactically. Moving a squad or two here or there and moving another around to flank. This is the payoff our bodies enjoy. Blobbing does nothing for this. But most of the player base are not great players, so blobbing may be fine for them.

SOUND
The Coh3 sounds are lacking. A large portion of the player experience comes from the sounds. Each sound in Coh2 gives the player information. What unit caused the sound, was it successful, should I be worried, how close is it to my units, etc etc etc. Coh3 sounds seem to lack in this arena. Once again game feedback is the critical piece in a game.

MAPS
There are not enough maps. Some are pure cancer and you cant veto them. White Ball is the most played Coh2 map (ever?) and some people hate it. Some love it but will hate it after playing it 3 times in a row. Only having a couple 4v4 maps = dead game mode. If I had to play Lorch Assault every game I would uninstall Coh2 immediately.

GBPirate is trying to help out the community by having a mapping competition. Lets hope there are some great maps from that. And Relic (Mono) is hopefully still making maps so eventually the Coh3 map pool will be in good shape in a few months.

And you fool yourself if you believed they would simply give you new faction for free.

This "DLC" is a joke. It provides almost nothing for the people who got the premium edition. Fooling ourselves into thinking Relic would magically not be a disappointment is the copium we all keep sucking. They had to shit out something and this is the best they could do.

Just imagine what a real company would do, then subtract 70% of that expectation and you will be fine. Relic is a wheelchair bound child in a dodgeball fight who cant reach the missed balls all around them.

MonolithicBacon (John_RE) did an amazing series about the mapping editor where he stated how easy it is to make maps. The new map he made seemed to only take a week and it has amazing visuals. So why did we only get a few maps this year? Shouldn't we have like 30 new maps by now? I fooled myself into thinking he was working on a new Campaign full of mapping work. I guess not? So what the %$#%^^ are they doing for the last year? Seriously, any ideas?

I am accepting all ideas because I cant for the life of me figure out how so many capable people can produce so little.

As usual, after anything Relic does all I can do is scratch my head. WTF were you thinking?


TIMELINE
1) Put game out way too early.
2) Slowly fix things, add content, and work balance.
3) Stream how important balance is and commit to keep working it.
4) Put out a limp DLC that destroys balance and angers players with its lack of content. But finally brings the casual user experience to a decent level.

So what is the end game with having all these unused assets? To make another DLC later? Will there be anyone left to purchase it after angering everyone with the missteps so far?

My guess for Relics issues is two possibilities:
1) They cant execute their ideas. Each update has had such a small amount of content. They are either working on other things or don't have the right people to get the job done.

2) They think anyone who is going to buy has already done so. Slowly trickle out DLC and hope to get small amounts of money from new players. Old players will get excited and bite also. Look how much attention this patch got already.