Profile of Rosbone

When I saw the bug, it was an order of selection. So maybe if someone is using hotkeys they may get it more often? I need to do some more testing...in my free time.

I actually like the pretense of RNG. For me one has to follow the flow of battle and adapt instead of throwing units mindlessly like in AOE.

So for me the question is more about how much RNG and if there should be RNG or not.

Yes this whole conversation has gone way off the rails so I dont expect everyone to read and remember all of it.

I think we all agree that RNG is a good thing in the game. It is what gives it life and replay ability.

The question is how to mentally deal with it. For me it is harder than most, because I seem to get a lot more weird/buggy stuff happening than most everyone I watch or play with. And I dont even care if I win or lose. I just want to play and get decent games. And sometimes that is just asking too much.

You seem to have convinced yourself there is some conspiracy or big mystery behind the way the game behaves. In reality the way CoH's multiplayer works is by simulating the gameflow locally on each machine and only exchanging data about player input and the like. There is 0% change 'server lag', 'traffic' or anything like that is affecting accuracy rolls, scatter or anything else aside from the obvious (input lag).

If you actually want to understand the game, try uploading replays of things that seem implausible and people will explain what and why happened, and what the odds of it were.

If you can't handle the stress of competitive RTS and really want to believe some supernatural force is making you lose, keep doing that instead.

The game runs in a constant lag state. That is the only possible way that each machine sees the same events play out. In vCOH this time was much larger and more apparent.

So as many people have said: If the server decides you are dead, you are dead. What you do will have ZERO change on the outcome. Ordinates will veer and turn, chase down targets out of range, go thru blockers, etc.

And as stated, watching the replay may just expose the server issue. If the replay is the actual data from the server and it differs from the presentation locally generated.

The hardest thing to code in gaming is network code. You have to receive inputs coming in for the same event, and the packets are all coming in at varying times. Some will come in after the event has already happened on other players machines.

So please explain how a mortar will wipe your squad on the move within 1 second of having sight of them? That means the mortar was already in the air before it had sight of your squad. So is it a stretch to think you are not running in the same time frame as the person who has the mortar.

To me that indicates you are lagging, enemy spotted you, turned the mortar, and fired several seconds before your unit broke the FOW. Or the server rolled snake eyes and decided you are dead and it just played out regardless of circumstance or logic.

So my point is what I have been saying for years on this site: Tweaking a unit stats a couple percent here and there for balance has ZERO effect on my games. When vetted upgraded obers get rekt by a mortar team support models, would a 2% change make any difference?

This all adds up to an aggregate RNG value much larger than the coded values. Indicating the game is a lot more RNG based than people think it is.

RN RETs do not act normally, because rifle nades are not normal weapon upgrade, its the only one in game with minimal range and they will act up if they are within that range.

You should treat them like weapon teams and after selecting target always should press stop command.

- I tested this bug THREE times before posting.
- Then I closed Coh2.
- Posted how to do it.
- I just tested them again and now they wont do it at all.

So three times in a row they bugged out. Now I cant make them bug out. This is precisely what I am talking about.

I knew the REs bugged because I see it in game consistently. So it was an example of what my OTHER units do in game also. Even AT guns and Tanks do the same thing. Act like they cant see the enemy.

Doesn't seem like you enjoy it much. Paradoxically you rail against rng but play the mode that suffers from it the most, by far. Stormjäger is correct though, you should try 3v3. They're just a touch less chaotic and imo the maps for the most part are pretty decent.

I do enjoy the game when it lets me play. And I get an enjoyment very few others do in that I get to play on maps that I had a hand in making.

Every game I have ever played in 3v3 was cancerous. Most of the maps are not made for 3v3. If they are too small or narrow its the same MG+mortar fest as 4v4. And if the map is too big, it becomes make giant blob and 2v1 someone.

I think the coded RNG factors in the game are good and make it fun. Especially to watch.

But some games you dont get to actually play. The server decides you are going to lose and there is nothing you can do about it. And my earlier posts are saying that this it not the coded RNG factors. There is something else going on with server timings or traffic.