Profile of Protos Angelus

Protos Angelus.
was thinking more in the direction of survivability of light tanks vs no-brainer TD-walls, (standard medium tanks and Anti-Tank-Gun excluded)

impractical and full of bugs, maybe. but hear me out.

as for some factions its too easy and too cheap to go build a TD-wall, that makes dives/attacks very costly/impossible. and was thinking if there was something to break the meta a bit.

situation: (with overpenetration idea in mind) you as a SOV are assaulting a OKW frontline.
OKW has: 1 jagd4, 1 pz4.

you as sov have: 1 T-70,
if you send T-70 to attack jagd4, jagd4 needs 4 shots now to kill the T-70 due to overpenetration concept. But has the pz4 as backup to fend off lighter/faster tanks, and needs only the standard 3 shots, as it is not affected by the concept.

you use the T-70 as a cheap sacrifice for a large force of whatever you want.
and was thinking of the rock/paper/scissors concept here too, balance be screwed for the moment, but if light/medium/TD armour were balanced around these factors:

light: average vs other lights/infantry,overpenetration mechanic that makes it an Anti TD weapon, weak to ATG's, mediums, shrecks/zooks etc.

medium: average....

Tank Destroyer: good VS medium and heavy armour, weak vs light tanks due to overpenetration mechanic etc.

I've seldom seen TD walls in teamgames, mostly because they are useless vs infantry.
Most useful and hardest to push wall is Panther + Sturm (or 2 brummbars) and that's lategame mostly. Panthers with MG upgrades are decent enough to deal with infantry and brumbars or sturmtigers (or stukas for OKW) are the only wall you even need.

In my games, if we had a TD wall...sure Panther didn't really push much but that's why obersoldaten and pzgrens were roaming freely. IMHO, TD walls are easiest to counter since all ally TDs + JP4 are completely useless vs infantry.

And for the soviet scenario using t70. Not gonna happen. That T70 will not to anything as OKW will always have the cheap and excellent raketen which it will send to the front of the frontline (retreat). If it doesn't, you're assuming no other units are on the field. From my experience, you have roaming grens, volks, pzgrens with shrecks, mines, etc. Assuming standard 3v3+ gamemode. 1v1 if you see jagd, well, that's 2 squads of infantry less to cap and map control for him and one slow juggernaut more to sit and snipe. Even so with 400 hp, 3 shots will still be needed if you plan to "nerf" the heavy tank vs light tank to 80 dmg per shot (80 + 160 + 160)

It's still a system that is not only unrealistic but also prone to breaking.
Imagine combining KT with luchs spam in teamgames. Or any Heavy + light. Force TDs to fight heavies as they are useless vs lights and lights mostly are great vs infantry and with a bit of micro avoid snares (AEC and stuart are exceptions, mediocre vs infantry). Basically teamgames would boil down to "don't let OKW go to late game" cause you could combine lights and heavies to great extent. Medium tanks win 1v1 vs Cromwell, M4 and T34 and now you could also use lights to great extent. Vs soviets greatly since they have piss poor infantry AT options. Versus USF less so since they can equip 2 echelons with zooks to deal with it and use the wide arc 57mm vs light spam.

Or imagine KT + puma spam with a bit of infantry on the side.

Axis would become dominant in longer teamgames. I'm not gonna speak for 1v1 as that mode I do not play at all vs humans but teamgames would be catastrophic, the amount of balance that would be required to balance lights.

Point is: Light vehicles have great use in late stages of the game, they need no rework nor is rework needed vs them.

You can't. Just like you can't build the LeFH in your base.

Isn't OKW build-able due to the fact that (same as Soviet) the buildings from OST teammate will extend the base sector and there will be a buffer where you can place, right at the edge? I used to do that with static ML arty

If you ever get a LEFH to vet 5 , then the enemy is doing something wrong anyway

You mean how on most maps LeFH can be put to base and still shell pretty close to your base? And 100% that it can shell from the base to all the VPs and a bit beyond (killing teams). In those terms, it's not hard to get LeFH to vet5

I think Panthers are in a good spot. They are incredibly durable with reliable frontal armour. The only problem is its primary role is a tank destroyer to counter other meds and tank destroyers. Its a bad 'medium' and its a bad tank destroyer. The main selling point is it will outlast whatever it is up against. Compared to other tank destroyers, it has a several machine guns for DPS so it's got that going for it.

It still outranges mediums by 10 and has the ability, as you have said, to dive any tank and kill it (if snares are out of the picture). I don't think it's that bad as a tank destroyer. It's not JP4 but then again, other stats make up for it. And as long as there are stock 230+ armour and 640+ HP tanks in Axis roster, TDs can not have their firepower nerfed, at all.

I mean, OKW has a stock P4 with 234 frontal armour and their TD is 230. Compared to USF piss poor AT gun (with good cone though), it can easily trade blows with it (since it's ~50% chance to penetarate at long range).

Soviet and UKF are a bit tougher, but then again, those factions have their weaknesses and merits.

The game was thought up with such disparities in mind and as such were greeted well by the community given the "asymmetric balance" nature of the game.

Also, map design and gamemode are the biggest balance breakers. One thing that is severly UP in 1v1 is OP in 3v3+, and the other way around ofc. It's not the same having max 200 pop on the map and 600. 3x population on maps of rougly equal size.

Dude, last 3 games I had 2 quitters on my team in first 10 minutes and one on enemy team in 20 minutes. All 3 flaming on all chat and quitting. Nothing new and nothing you can do about it. Until they destroy base or do something, just accept the fact that there are kids and adults with child-like brains, and move on.