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Well I just tested it out in-cheat mod and the JT would literally not miss a single shot. Not sure how it is then that it missed so many shots in all the actual games I used it in in the last months. I had a game on Minsk today where the JT would miss a Comet twice at around range 10.

Accuracy on JT is now 0.06/0.05/0.035.
Elefant has 0.055/0.045/0.03.

Considering neither can fire on the move and thus do not have movement accuracy penalties, the Jagdtiger is definitely more accurate on paper (and should be in the game obviously).

Maybe there is some bug that counts the shot at the end of a rotation towards target as still moving? I noticed that it's usually those that the JT misses. Like when you order it to attack, it rotates the vehicles then once the vehicle is in range it shoots and misses. I dont't think it's a coincidence either. I sometimes used the JT for casual fun games before the last changes and it was insane how often it would miss. The "new" JT did the same when I played today. Even on ranges around 20-30 or sometimes even lower than that.

Well there is your problem! Try learning how to play the game instead of holding out for wunderwaffe to win it for you. Lay a mine? Have an infantry screen. There is no reason aside from being out played that a t34 and pile of infantry should be getting at your 70 range TD. Do you also suffer from infantry constantly knocking out your arty with small arms perhaps?

That's silly. There is no way you will always have enough units in front of a JT to kill a ramming T34. AT-guns will do nothing because unless you have 4 of them they cant kill the T34 fast enough. It's also not realistic to have every single inch of the map covered up with mines.

I understand a lot of legit arguments against OKW units being too good (like old Command Panther for example) but trying to somehow make JT look like it's too good or easy to use is just stupid. JTs were never used in 1v1 and 2v2 and only very rarely in 3v3 and 4v4. There is a reason for that.

The changes made the JT easier to use so there is a chance it will be used more often now but at the same time I also feel the balance approach was very lazy and made the game more boring because it reduced the few existing differences between JT and Ele even more.

Can some people explain please why they think the old JT was better? Yeah it was so much better that it was used in 0% of the top 200 teamgame matches, guys. I guess it was only being used in a trash micro vs trash micro match?

Breakthrough doctrine bad in the new patch? Are you legitimately trolling?

No it's not. It has actual comparable mobility now while still having 50 more armor and 80 more hitpoints. Especially the superior armor can still make a huge difference vs tank destroyers compared to an Elefant.
Oh and the engine upgrade got reworked in case you didnt notice it (wasnt in the patch notes). It gives the JT a noticable amount of extra speed if out of combat now. The old upgrade did almost nothing and the JT still moved like a brick, but now they buffed its base rotation and acceleration. And that was the main problem of the old trash JT. Once it finished reacting to an enemy attack on another part of the map, that attack was already over.

Vs what targets did you use the barrage ability? Mobile inf squads? The tests vs MGs and AT guns seemed perfectly fine to me.


Are you sure that the JT suffers from a 0.5 accuracy penalty on most of its shots or are you just assuming that?

Old JT was shit, that's why it wasn't used. But instead of making it viable they just turned it into an Ele clone. Extremely boring IMO. Yes it has slightly more survivability but the difference is insignificant in most situations. What other major differences are there? Easiest solution would have been to keep the JT as it was but improve aim time and the potency of the barrage. That way it would have remained unique while also being used.

I used the barrage against AT-gun walls and MGs...How would you even attempt to use it against mobile infantry? It's completely impossible.

I am sure that the 0.5 accuracy penalty applies on many JT shots because as I said and is obvious from stats the gun traverse is so much worse than on the Ele. That makes it rotate more. That is the only explanation that I can think off regarding why it misses so many more shots than the Elefant despite having better accuracy stats.

Breakthrough is bad compared to both Ele doctrines. That's what I mean when I said JT is a Ele clone stuck in a bad doctrine. I should have used "worse" instead, I admit that.

I don't get these changes either. The JT as it is now is garbage apart from a select few maps where it can be ok. Just keep the range, armour and HP as it is but give it better accuracy and aim time. Right now it seems to miss way too many shots while also taking forever to aim. The barrage is close to useless too. Needs improving.