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One has to first balance the mainline infantry and then the doctrinal infantry.

I respectfully disagree. Mainline infantry should support doctrinal infantry, not the other way around. If doctrinal infantry replaces mainline infantry, as is with the case of Panzerfusseliers, the doctrinal infantry needs to be toned down.

Keep on track, people. This isn't about TD's.

yet just look at their popcap LUL

That too. I actually forget their popcap of 6. That certainly needs to go to 8 IMO.

Ywah lately I've been thinking that this game would have been so much more balanced if every army actually had a complete roster with units that come when you actually need them, so we wouldn't have problems like no early mg for okw (and to some extent, usf), ukf getting roflstomped by double mortar/isg, okw not having caches, usf doctrines having to fill in for rocket arty, tough tanks, units that aren't riflemen in early game, flamers, and mines.

Meh. Both of those are inferior to flanking and blocking since they both only last like 4 seconds or whatever, definitely not enough for even all of 2 players' tanks to do a lot of damage to the jt/ele, even if they're already behind it.

IMO they're just poorly designed because the counterplay to attempting to counter them is literally just don't be afk. In elaboration, allies have to coordinate multiple people to put out a far-reaching tank offensive while trying to deal with both the jt/ele and supporting troops, but also having to go at maximum speed or else just lose tanks one by one to the heavy TDs, whereas the commander of the Axis TD literally just has to back up, and maybe faust the diving tanks, or even just do nothing as the jt/ele and whatever supporting armor/at units they and/or any of their teammates in the area just goes to town on the diving allied tanks, all on maps that don't facilitate flanking at all.

Pretty much this aswell.

(Do keep in mind i am talking about 3v3's and 4v4's.)

No, they(the Elephant and the Jagdtiger) are not OP.


However, i don't think that anyone would(completely) disagree when i say this:


1. They hard counter Ordinary Tank Destroyers. Mass Firefly Jackson or SU-85 will almost never work, unless the axis player is careless.
2. Flanking it late 4v4 game is a futile effort. As their allies naturally have Panthers, which already requires flanking to destroy it. Most charges are suicides. and.............
3. Randoms are uncooperative. They hardly make a well balanced army by their own, like amassing tank destroyers while you already got mass tank destroyers. And they are very reluctant to join the charges even if you ask them. And Even telling them to switch position when hard countered is useless. Most of the time they blame you after you utterly lost your side.
4. Fixed Artillery/Self-Propelled Howtizer may harass them but will never kill them, Rocket Artilleries will just scratch their paint.
5. Mass PIATS/Zooks are countered by just an MG or a Brummbar, despite making attempt to smoke those areas first.
6.Allied Forces itself have the worse AT capability than Axis Forces, this while having filmsier tanks than Axis.


A very simple solution would be to:

- Double the cooldowntimer
- activating the cooldowntimer only after the Elephant/Jagdtiger have been destroyed.


Any similair thoughts? Perhaps better solutions?