Profile of LoopDloop

Pupchen is op. It moves too fast while being invisible (comparing to ZiS and M42), it can retreat and garrison buildings. It's possible to sneak upon a katusha, kill it and run away unpunished. Pitcher's invisibility must be nerfed and the retreat feature must be removed. Or better replace it with PaK 40

It also gets 1 shot by shermans, and two shot by every other tank. I think it's fine.

Anybody else think M15 AA HT needs some kind of buff?

Lmg42s penetrate it lol. It's lethality also got nerfed somewhat. An extra 80 hp would help, so it doesn't get 2 shot by at guns/tanks, since the okw one gets super cheap smoke and pathfinding means that getting caught by a cloaked rak or a the midrange of a pak basically means death.

I did this just the other day, and it isn't uncommon. 1 MG into 4 grens and an HT and just pushed my opponent off the field in a 2v2 random against a premade of blobbers, 1 USF and 1 Soviet. I didn't necessarily blob, but all my units fit on the screen. All I did was move up to their base with the halftrack reinforcing losses, under covering mg fire until I was able to spam p4s. USF had his FRP which I punished more than once, and Sov player was blobbing his penals everywhere. My teammate was also Wehr. Just because you don't see it in whatever mode/level you're playing at doesn't mean it doesn't happen. And hearing you voice your opinion so strongly against an FRP and knowing that you think the above is rare/doesn’t happen at all gives me some insight into the type of mentalities that seem to be encouraging the removal of FRPs, which is concerning.

So you're saying you weren't blobbing, right? And being ranked what you are, I'm guessing you don't blob and have a good handle on the game. So why is that example relevant to what I was saying? Not very many blobbers use halftracks was my original point, and you said, "no, but I used a halftrack the other day," and then for whatever reason jumped to the conclusion that I'm at such a low level people never build halftracks. Hardcore blobbers that you sometimes see in teamgames (like that soviet you mentioned in your example) don't tend to use halftracks behind their blob. That statement wasn't refuted or challenged at all by your example of your use of a halftracks, it's just completely irrelevant.

What do blizzards have to do with anything? They weren't faction features, and they weren't removed as a result of something the unofficial balance modders did. Also, I think taking a look at the definition of "diversity" might help you to understand what I was getting at. Google is probably hard for you, let me help:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/diversity

I think your understanding of the word is opposite of what it actually means. The fact a faction has something that the others do not makes that faction diverse from the others. Is it clear now?

If you're going to nitpick something, at least do it right. Not that any of this back and forth matters anymore, Relic already stated that they have no intentions implementing the current rendition of the unofficial balance patch at this time.

First of all, can we chill a little? Remember, this is a forum for a videogame. I'll take my share of the blame for the current adversarial tone, but let's cut it back a bit, yeah?

That being said, in the post that you quoted, smith talked about rifle flamers, volkschrecks, and blizzards, which is why I asked what they had to do with faction diversity because in your reply, you complained that faction diversity is/will be going out the window. I would argue that those were the removal of stupid features. My point about FRPs is that while it's not universal, like cover, it's in over half the factions so it's not exactly unique, and taking it out wouldn't really hurt the "flavor" of any faction either, so I don't exactly see how removing it is "shitting on faction diversity".

That's the deflection damage you're seeing.

Zooks, piats, and PTRS usually come in pairs and have better rates of fire than schrecks. When they fail to penetrate they still deal a fair bit of damage.

I was watching people play vCoH the other day and I was instantly reminded of something important: no deflection damage from infantry AT. Maneuvering to get rear armor hits as infantry had so much more meaning. Infantry couldn't just chase and lob shots at front armor for essentially guaranteed damage.

Unless you're playing panzer elite lul.

Isn't that exactly what they are to start with? It's the STG/Vet combo that changes all that though.

Yeah. I feel like they trade a little more evenly at close range than volks in coh1 do though.

Not really. There isn't really any "glass cannon" infantry besides Commandos.

IMO 30 mp per model, 30 muni stick grenade not tied to teching, MG34 upgrade in addition to MP44s. You should should have a small amount of Volks squads that are armed to the teeth and have to work with each other to survive and get vet.

It's a cool idea, but I feel like there'd be no way to balance that in the lategame without scrapping the feel of the unit (as described by you) at that point. I mean, have fun trying to cap a contested vp in even 1v1 after 20 minutes.

Why stop there Smith? Why not just make every faction have the same units accessible at the same tiers, and just reskin them for each faction. That sounds like a game you might want to play.

Seriously though, you shit on faction diversity so hard if you remove FRP. These factions we're essentially built on keeping their infantry in the field for different reasons. There are plenty of disadvantages already in place for banking on and camping a FRP.

You will create a balance nightmare when you remove them. It's unfortunate you've been given the keys to the balance-mobile, because you're gonna drive it straight off the fuckin bias-cliff. Wish I could say I didn't see this coming.

How is volkschrecks, rifle flamers, and blizzards faction diversity? And FRP has nothing to do with diversity either, since 3/5 factions have it.