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The argument is more along the lines that the Comet and Cromwell need to be adjusted to allow for room for the Churchill to be viable. At the moment there it no point in getting a Churchill when you can get a Comet that bounced 88 rounds, one shots squads, and has a great gun while also being nimble as hell and great for diving with the hammer engine boost.

Yeah... that seems to be the problem. It's not a comet. So I think some things need to be changed on both sides of the Company command post to make the choice of teching more of a choice.
Which would probably mean increasing the tank's armour so that it can also bounce 88 rounds, with reduced health as well (about the same as a KT) to prevent it becoming invincible like it was when it came out. I would also increase the cost back to it's original levels. Another option would be to boost it's anti-infantry capabilities while keeping its AT performance the same, to allow it to form a symbiotic relationship with either a Firefly or a 17 Pounder. The Churchill defends from infantry, the big guns defend from tanks. Maybe change how the smoke works as well. Or give them a WP round (though I don't think they could fire one IRL).
And though many of my fellow British players will hate me for saying it, the Comet could do with a slight nerf in the Anti-infantry department. Along the lines of removing the grenade (though possibly keeping the passive Vet 3 toss) and slightly reducing the range of the WP shell, or keep the range and increase the cost and cooldown, or change it's damage model.

The tone down it down guys.

As for why Churchills are overshadowed by Comets, it's because the Comets have better use.

Allow me to point out the positives.

Comet:
1) Has a better accuracy on the move than the Panther.
2) Has a better potential to penetrate German armor.
3) At Vet 2, the drivers automatically toss out grenades if the tanks don't use the hold fire.
4) Worth its weight in fuel and manpower.
5) Has indirect benefits such as the "War Speed" if the British players make use of it.
6) Has the ability of shooting White Phosphorous at units.
7) Has ability to throw nuke nades.

Churchill:
1) High Health Pool
2) At Vet 2, the crew opens their hatches and shoots from them.
3) Creates a smoke screen, but at the cost of being slow.
4) Has ability to throw nuke nades.

So you see the issue, the Comet has more positive benefits than the Churchill. Another problem the Churchill faces is that it is a slow lumbering tank that is really just there as a punching bag for StuGs, Panthers, Tigers, Jagdpanzers, etc. Whereas the Comet can easily make a hit and run on German units and have a better chance at returning. I almost forgot to mention that it has a better gun than the Churchill and can act as a shield for Fireflies from behind.

Yeah, so is there anyway we could even out the positives? Also, Vet 1 is when the Churchill gains 2 extra MGs, the Comet gets passive grenade toss at Vet 3.
Anyway, I would suggest a slight armour increase so that it can hold it's own against Panthers a wee bit more, with a decrease in HP to KT levels and an cost increase to it's original levels. Also, maybe a change to how their smokescreen works, and maybe a slight AOE buff to help against infantry. The other Churchill variants are fine as they are.
Also, as a suggestion, what about bringing the main gun to Cromwell levels?

There is no reason to go churchill for two reasons:

1. Cromwell is way better and you can get two or three by the time you could possibly get one churchill

2. Why on earth go churchill when you can get the mother of all tanks, also known as the formula 1 driftking 360 noscope I rekt all Comet.

Exactly my point. Spot on. Surely there should be an actual reason to take the Churchill and therefore, Anvil? Whether it be a slight armour buff with an HP decrease and a cost increase to it's original levels or maybe an AI buff to make it better against infantry but keep the same performance against tanks. Of course, it's MGs are pretty good already. As it stands now, the KV-1 is a better tank stat-wise.
I'd just personally like to see more variety in the gameplay. Whether or not that means nerfing the Comet as well, though some would agree, that might not be the most welcome change.

Isn't it the churchil that the thread is about?

It is. I assume it's a miss type due to this guy's pathetic attempt to insult me. The Churchill is good as a command vehicle because you are crippling an already not very good vehicle. It can take the heat better then the other vehicles anyway because of it's high health pool. Stick it next to a 17Iber or a firefly and the enemy won't know what to attack, a big target that buffs everything around it, or a big target that has been buffed and destroys everything.

The UKF could do with some slight changes to the 25pdrs to make them more appealing, and they could do with having a smoke barrage available to them. The rest of the patch is fine.