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I remember some time ago Stormless(?) show minimalistic UI for CoH2. It could be implemented with patch?

What I saying is, what Royal Engineers can acquire, is far better off than Sturmpios only repair upgrades.

Royal Engineers in the proccess improves combat capabilities against AI making it way better than Sturmpio since it can not even scale on like they do.

Thus Sturmpio AI capability is rendered useless in contrast.

Repair is just one part of it. The rest, All the Royal Engineer has. Better AI and AT support after 10 min until the end. Better Survivability if purchase Bolster. Improves also repair making nearly as equivalent. All in all, makes the Royal Engineer far better off.

Anvil makes their repair speed better than just 5 man at the end.

Royal Engineers will get the same repair speed or faster late game but everything else, AI , AT , survivability is what they will have early that Sturmpio will never even get.

The huge difference is, Royals Engineer can scale.

Sturmpio cant.

It's easy to make same changes for Sturmpio too.

1. Start unit is volk

2. Sturmpio could build only after first building will be deployed. They have mp-40, not stg-44. Becomes cheaper to 260, stats decreased accordingly. Get faust instead volks. Could get bolster upgrade +1 man. Could been upgraded to heavy sappers or at-hunters (only 1 upgrade).

3. After T3 (mechanazed truck with wstuka and p2) will be deployed, you can purchase for them upgrade that increase speed of repair and will get them 2 stg-44 with stun grenade - heavy sappers. You can't make repair station upgrade.

4. Can get AT-package - 2 shrecks, at-satchel instead faust, ability to detect armor in mini-map. Lost all engeener abilites - At-Hunters.

Despite what utility Sturmpio has got, it sums up to be a total mess of undefined class, partaking many roles and not good in one specific role. "Jack of all trades, master of none".

I guess that is how the Devs thought of it as they did not know exactly how to actually define it at all.

You are just descriped cons))) Could build build sandbags, throw lolotovs and at-nade after researching. But you alwys have better unit in roster)

IRC Sturmpio have the most highest speed of repair (and got boost, if you purchase to them minesweeper). Royal engeeners need top-tier building and specific upgrade for it.

If you soo much want get them clear role:

"AT package" 100 muni (or how much cost pgrens shrecks now?) - 2 pshrecks + at satchel (like penals have) + ability to detect armor units in minimap (like soviets have in some doctrines). Lost ability to repair vehicle, drop medkits and build any structures.

Now you have 2 possible upgrades and 2 distinct roles:

1. Minesweeper - engeeners
2. AT package - at-hunters

SU has high pen and range, you support it with your inf, so Panther can't hunt it. You use PaK to counter it, or a good offensive.

T34 is there to destroy the support. It is good versus inf, good versus PaKs.


There are no real counters in CoH. The game is mainly based on micro. Sure, there some situation you can say, it is a counter. Like PaK versus SU85.

Day for real stories, when i know that in CoH no any counter. M5 with quad don't counter planes. P4 don't counter t-70 or t-3476. Minesweeper don't counter mine. Faust don't counter M3. MG don't counter infantry. Rocket arty don't counter blobs or team weapons. Obers don't counter cons. Stormtroops don't counter engeeners or grens with volks on close-combat. It's all matter of micro.
What else you will say for me?

SU-85 top-tier TD, you want for stug be in pair with SU-85? Move it to T4, boost stats and price to 130, change abilities. I also want that SU-76 was hardcounter to P4....but BALANCE. You have panther.
If you use 1 panther against hiding SU-85 it's your fault. No one SU-85 in the whole world never will dive to full-healthy panther (i don't consider noobs). But if you do it with your panther - Yolooo!!! I panther!!! Or f..k who planted mines here? What these guys want to do with this AT grenade? Which it's fault?
If i will dive by su-85 to panther which it will be fault?
Against t-34 use stug. You support it with your inf, so t-34 can't hunt it.

The line-up is simply a fail for Germans.

At the moment StuG should counter tank-hunters, Panther heavy tanks. That is why StuG has such bad pen, because allii-tankhunters have bad armor. The range is StuGs main-problem, not the pen.

If use your logic (where TD is counter for another TD), than su-85 counter to stug, but who for SU counter heavies? Don't tell me about-t3476, even with 2 you will have vey bad chances against panther or tiger.
You could explain for me meaning of word "counter"? Maybe we are understand this word by different ways, i don't know. But for me, "counter" means - something that designed for one clear specific purpose and this something, doing it pretty awesome. Sniper counter another sniper or team weapons? Flames counter heavy cover? Mediums counter LV's? Mortar counter mg's? ATG counter armor units?

TD's NEVER COUNTER OTHER TD's. Only doctrinal like JT, Ele, ISU-152, but they are doctrinal - balance.