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Thread: Jackson Nerf vs Making Panther Doctrinal3 Nov 2019, 15:10 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2019, 14:57 PMddd Im not lumping them together. You are, and you say jackson should be nerfed because its not su85 or firefly. You mention all the things su85 and firefly cant do and conclude thats the reason jackson should be nerfed. Jackson is different unit in different faction with different playstyle and has different set of (dis)advantages. What is the reason jackson should be nerfed other than being different unit from other TDs and whining from axis mains? I don't think the Jackson needs to be nerfed. I think the Jackson was buffed to its current state for a reason: the 480 HP Jackson just didn't cut it in long range slugging matches, and the rest of USF's AT lineup is so ridiculously geared towards anti-light vehicle duty that it was just too easy to overrun. However, if there's a way to make the Jackson vulnerable to close range flanking without crippling it in long-range slugging matches, it'd be good for strategic diversity within the USF faction. The 76mm and the Easy Eight are always going to struggle to find their place when the Jackson can do their job and usually do it better. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: My Proposal to change Allied TDs3 Nov 2019, 15:04 PM What if you returned the Jackson to 480 HP, but gave it a cloaked lockdown similar to the one in Tank Hunter Tactics (cloaked but completely immobile)? That'd make the Jackson vulnerable to being flanked again (it can only take 3 hits) but it'd retain its viability in long-range slugging matches because of the cloak. It'd also be historically accurate: the US did hide their tank destroyers for ambushes like that. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Turn Point Blank Engine Shot Into A Skillshot3 Nov 2019, 14:52 PM Pretty simple premise. Change Point Blank Engine Shot from its current janky implementation into a manually targeted skillshot like the Pershing's AP round or the Firefly's tulip rockets. This is mostly a quality-of-life improvement (the live implementation is awful) but it'd also allow you to fire the ability without direct LoS, allowing new tactics like firing a Sherman's smoke canister for cover. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Jackson Nerf vs Making Panther Doctrinal3 Nov 2019, 14:16 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2019, 13:54 PMddd You can however place su85 on mid VP and let it zone out any armor with selfspotting ability while you guard flanks with PTRS penals. You can also use firefly tullips to stun enemy armor and nuke it from 100 to 0 with superior alpha damage and support of best at gun in the game, 6pdr (clone of pak40). Not to mention you have stock heavy/brawler tank. You cant do any of this with jackson. What you were trying to say is different factions have different (dis)advantages. I'm saying there's a fundamental difference in playstyle between the SU-85/Firefly and the Jackson, and that's that makes the Jackson the AT panacea it is. The SU-85 co-exists so well with the M4C and the T-34/85 because they play so differently. The Jackson plays like a medium tank. You can't lump the three tank destroyers together when one of them plays very differently to the others. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Jackson Nerf vs Making Panther Doctrinal3 Nov 2019, 13:28 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2019, 23:07 PMCODGUY The Jackson is not flexible at all. The Pershing is flexible, the M4A3 is flexible, the Panther is actually a lot more flexible than a Jackson is. The Jackson only is effective against vehicles and that's why it's fine the way it is, there is NOTHING wrong with where its at except for in my opinion it deserves a longer sight radius. You're stuck in this 'A CoH Match is two blobs A-Moving into each other' mentality. That's not how the game works beyond low ranks. The Jackson is positionally flexible. It's fast, has good moving accuracy and has good turret rotation, which means it can be played like an AT-only medium tank. By contrast, the SU-85 has no turret and the Firefly's turret is so slow it's actually a liability half the time. You can't play these vehicles like AT-only mediums because if an enemy tank approaches them from the side, rear or gets close they're fucked. These units play more like anti-tank guns: you position them somewhere safe and you support them with snare infantry and mines. If the enemy gets a Panzer IV, you can build a Jackson, hunt it down and kill it. The SU-85 and Firefly cannot do the same: without hefty support they'll be outmaneuvered and killed by the very unit you bought them to counter. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: My Proposal to change Allied TDs2 Nov 2019, 18:47 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2019, 06:17 AMCODGUY It's not viable to nerf the Jackson. USF was complete trash prior to it's health buff. Guess what you'd have to do to balance things out if you significantly nerfed the Jackson? You'd have to make the Panther doctrinal. The autistic screeching from Wehraboos would be deafening. But why shouldn't the Panther be doctrinal anyway? Allied premium mediums are mostly doctrinal and OKW still has the friggen King Tiger. To make the Panther doctrinal you'd have to remove the IS-2 from the game. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Jackson Nerf vs Making Panther Doctrinal2 Nov 2019, 18:37 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2019, 18:19 PMdistrofio If jacksons deny all kind of armor (medium/heavy/superheavy) then a single unit is able to deny the enemy one big and very expensive tool. Come on, distrofio, you know that's not true. The Jackson is a highly cost efficient anti-tank vehicle. It's no more 'armour denial' than the Panther is. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Jackson Nerf vs Making Panther Doctrinal2 Nov 2019, 18:07 PM The Jackson needs to retain its peak effectiveness because it's the sole counter to heavy armour in the USF lineup. What it doesn't need to retain is its positional flexibility. The Firefly and SU-85 play like big anti-tank guns: they need to set up in a good position with support to defend them from dives, and if they get caught out of position they're usually dead. The Jackson plays like a medium tank: it can quite merrily maraud around the map, if it gets caught out of position it can happily fight back on the move and it stands a good chance to win that fight. The Jackson's problem isn't its firepower: it needs that. Its problem is the flexibility with which it can apply it. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 6 changes to improve Wehrmacht commanders thematically 2 Nov 2019, 15:24 PM Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2019, 21:42 PMKatitof What if... its "attack heavily defended territory and have replacement infantry if you took heavy loses"? If you're using it and suiciding your units to trigger it, you're using it wrong. Its supportive ability that makes you get something out of heavy push even if you failed, not something that makes you stand on your own bundle nades. That's what they were thinking. In practice, it's a munitions ability that buys Osttruppen so long as you lose enough models during the time window. It'd be far more useful and far less counter to the unit-preservation design of the game to have an ability that just gives you Ostruppen. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 6 changes to improve Wehrmacht commanders thematically 1 Nov 2019, 17:55 PM Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2019, 14:22 PMT.R. Stormjäger People need to stop dismissing Relief infantry, I bet every single one of you hasn’t even used it. Relief Infantry isn't on the chopping block because it's bad, Relief Infantry is on the chopping block because its high concept of "kill your soldiers on purpose to get more soldiers" is stupid. In: COH2 Balance