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Jump back to quoted post4 May 2017, 14:15 PMLoopDloop

Definitely needs some smoke cues. The audio's too ambiguous as to where the massive uberwipe bomb will fall. I think the ability would be ok as-is if it had a visual pinpoint, as right now you pretty much have to guess at where it's going to land.

Jump back to quoted post4 May 2017, 11:39 AMSturmTigerVorgo

It's just not worth 30 fuel, easy to kill, annoying to use. I would use it if it would be much cheaper.

Jump back to quoted post3 May 2017, 15:25 PMMr.Smith

Note that those are not, necessarily the detailed changes we have in mind. I'm just giving the key changes for each unit. And, of course, none of those changes are final; this is why we brought this up as a topic of discussion.

We need feedback on:
- First of all, if this the right direction to go
- Secondly, if we forgot something
- Finally, once we address #1 and #2, better-finetune the trade-offs and the changes therein

Jump back to quoted post3 May 2017, 15:25 PMMr.Smith

They might be getting some AI utility at Vet0 to compensate. Both units are, at best, troll units in 1v1 and will remain so. Perhaps, with some fancy-looking AI barrage they will get some of their worth back.

Jump back to quoted post3 May 2017, 15:25 PMMr.Smith

Crocodile will need some nerfs. I'm just saying that the wipey-AI needs a tone-down and, if necessary, we should explore giving it some AT utility, as opposed to leaving it so deadly in the AI department. The buff in AT could come with additional nerfs, just as the ones that you mentioned.
If you've ever had to fight against a Crocodile & Firefly combo, you will immediately recognise what I mean.

Jump back to quoted post3 May 2017, 15:25 PMMr.Smith

That's an omission that we could address with a munition price increase.

Jump back to quoted post3 May 2017, 15:25 PMMr.Smith

Popcap change will mean nothing for 1v1, since you rarely ever see people going above 2 Stugs. With the right kind of teams, however, you routinely get to see Stug 6-packs running around, and that's where a popcap of 8 gets really ridiculous.

Jump back to quoted post3 May 2017, 15:25 PMMr.Smith

We could make the MG upgrade better or cheaper (it's fixed arc after all) to compensate.

Jump back to quoted post3 May 2017, 15:25 PMMr.Smith

You can't build howitzers in 1v1 because they cost a fuckton of manpower. 600MP in the late-game is simply too much. The idea is to offset the ridiculous MP cost with some FU cost, so that you aren't so completely bottlenecked.


If 50FU is too much for a 200MP discount, feel free to suggest an alternative price.