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Both are not worth it. 17 pounder is shit, although it is really gimmicky. The pak43 for Ostheer is worthless and gets insta gibbed by anything that fires at it and decrews it. The OKW pak43 is where it is at, but still, pretty useless in 99% of the cases in a 1v1 |
Along with original crew DPS drop, there comes a reinforcement cost decrease. From 25MP to 22MP per model. The quality of the patchnotes is not up-to-par. Thus, can you please also test your claims in game, before making a new thread about each issue?
In terms of suppression, yes. Unless MG34/MG42 get bit by the suppression bug which the DBP fixes.
If you are picking a live-version Maxim over a live-version MG34, I'm sorry, but you're clueless.
Did you not read? And actually, I wouldn't want any of those mgs. But if you think you can get away with thinking the mg34 is fine, then you are clueless. It can't fight any 6 to 5 men allied infantry properly. It is pathetic. |
That the problem of there all nerfs or buufs, i called its double nerf, its to many changes wihtout reason.
Jep. |
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Last time I asked them (which was during glorious maxim days) they said the MG34 is only slightly worse than the mg42 and was superior to the maxim.
There is no hope with these folks mate. |
PPsh is a bad option because smgs and bolt action do not mix well (unless all mosin are replaced).
Get them all smgs them haha. |
If Conscripts are fighting K98 all the time, then what you say would be interesting. However, Mosin vs Kar98 is a transition period in the early game until weapon upgrades start popping up (STGs, G43, LMG). Past that point, Conscripts still need a range where they are still useful.
Nevertheless Mosin vs K98 still have different curves, even if you just boost the far accuracy.
We can't boost Conscript's mid-range, which is a strong point without risking debalancing everything.
Is it possible to give Cons non doc ppsh? Or is relic not into that kind of change? This would bypass their need for damage adjustment in the closer ranges and would simply give a choice between close or longer range dps functionality. |
About the OST panther, why not simply switch the panther and the tiger?
The tiger could be refit in a generalist role (in fact it is already today), the unit would provide more interest in building your T4. On its side, adjust the Brumbar maybe to be a cheaper IA dedicated unit, reducing its armor or health and global dps, something you use in addition with the Tiger.
Then the OST Panther could be use in doctrines as the OKW command panther is, with some adjustment, making it a really dedicated AT unit, increasing its AT power and reducing its AI one and of course increasing its frontal armor.
The unit could be limited to one at time and only available once BP3 is researched.
So we have an Ostheer faction that has easier access to better generalist units around their dedicated AT units (pak40 and Stug) and if their really need another AT source to fight bigger cats such as Churchills, they can either call an Elefant (in teamgame) or a panther (1vs1)
This would also make other than Tiger doctrines more appealing since you could always build a Tiger.
Oh god no, that is a great idea! But that won't fit personal agendas for the Mod team! |
It isn't, anyway panther isn't spammable to begin with even in teamgames.
Okw panther won't become spammable.
Ost panther won't become spammable.
Both already weren't.
But they need to write something to justify changes.
I know lol. It is funny to say the least. |
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Just to get this straight. You guys adjust OKW panther and Ostheer Panther because they are too spammable. You then increase pop cap, nerf both units hard, and then lower the OKW Panther price which makes the OKW panther more spammable.
Like lol? How is this logical hahahah |
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With the current tech adjustments for Ostheer, the sturmpanzer iv needs to be looked at. It is too good of a unit, which was ofset by the hard teching route of the Ostheer. With the new changes, this downside is now gone.
Also, stuka divebomb was fixed, any changes in the works for demo insta wipe units?
Also, why buff conscripts, which will now further hamper Ostheer since every base line infantry now shits on Grens, when the problem for cons was the overperforming volks and in general the luchs. |
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