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Thread: Zis Barrage need longer cooldown26 Oct 2020, 14:44 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 14:38 PMMr Carmine A garanteed retreat is something esle then a garateed wipe. Certain people claim is near or a garanteed wipe on hit at max range even. Even against 4 men it rarely wipes esp with the first shot. Losing a position (by a wipe or by a retreat) because of an OP ability like the ZiS or SU76 barrage is almost the same. You lose the position!!! In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Zis Barrage need longer cooldown26 Oct 2020, 14:40 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 14:21 PMgbem the SU-76 Penetration near 180 Penetration mid 170 Penetration far 160 the StuG Penetration near 200 Penetration mid 185 Penetration far 170 Almost the same stats, but with 10 more range + Barrage ability. More than enough to bully/snipe P4s, Stugs, Halftracks and Team Weapons. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Zis Barrage need longer cooldown26 Oct 2020, 14:32 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 14:21 PMgbem https://coh2.serealia.ca/ In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Zis Barrage need longer cooldown26 Oct 2020, 14:17 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 14:12 PMelchino7 I think you are looking at the old Coh2stats which has outdated stats. Though the difference is barely there due to the range difference. It could be. I always refer here: http://www.coh2-stats.com/vehicles/m4a3e8_sherman_easy_8_mp#collapseOne Do you have an updated one? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Zis Barrage need longer cooldown26 Oct 2020, 14:07 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 13:51 PMgbem the stug has more penetration... also the stug also outclasses the SU-76 in terms of DPS and HP... the stug is the superior unit to the SU-76 by a longshot As incredible as it may seem, SU76 has more penetration (and more range) than the StugG. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Zis Barrage need longer cooldown26 Oct 2020, 12:51 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 12:18 PMMr Carmine The barrage is not a garanteed wiping ability, esp at long range. It does so on rare occasions on units who are already low on hp or unlucky to move into the follow up shells. Grenades are far more consistant in wiping, but dont have the range. Nothing wrong with either. The ZiS barrage is almost a guaranteed retreat for most HMG, ATG or indirect fire like mortars, taking in consideration that its firing always 4men squads. Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 12:18 PMMr Carmine When the zis is firing arty its not firing at tanks, a weakness of multyrole units. An extra moment you can catch it of guard. Its at has been buffed buts its still not as good as other atguns in raw at power. This is true. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Zis Barrage need longer cooldown26 Oct 2020, 11:59 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 11:36 AMKatitof No one said its not ok. Being worst at AT doesn't mean being bad at AT. What's the point of naming faction traits again? We are discusing the multi role of SOV units. So, ZIS was just a reminder for you as a unit that is good in multi roles: good At gun + barrage + 6men in a single unit. Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 11:36 AMKatitof StuG has double the armor, can actually deflect all stock medium tanks, got more health, got vet ability that is actually useful in combat and, contrary to SU-76, StuG is actual and functional and cost effective hardcounter to med tank spam, INCLUDING all premium meds. SU76 keeps being good as an AT and AI option (multi role). Dont know why noone use it. Maybe because T70 is more usefull. Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 11:36 AMKatitof Brummbar arrives much earlier, isn't limited to 1, got perfect accuracy vs ISUs largest scatter values in game, isn't doctrinal, allows you to have an elephant behind it, so you have exceptional AI and AT power on field at the same time WHILE also keeping ISU away. See, you are saying it. Axis needs 2 units (Ele+Brumm) to make the same job as 1 sov (ISU). Again, the multi role of Sovs units is way too good. Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 11:36 AMKatitof Soviets early-mid game infantry play is non existent. Thats your opinion. Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 11:36 AMKatitof Then better don't mention it and save yourself a flop, because its 3 years at least since it isn't unit used in meta. T34/85 is still a very good (if not the best) premium medium tank. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Zis Barrage need longer cooldown26 Oct 2020, 11:36 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 11:22 AMKatitof Which of them exactly? Because ZiS is worst ATG in game in terms of actual AT kill times(assuming there is muni to feed USF one), SU-76 is excelling to the point where no one ever gets it. ISU excels exclusively in AI and its AT DPM is lower even then that of SU-76. Guards hardly excel at anything, they are just supplemental in both roles. T-70 scouting/sight providing role was butchered long time ago. ZiS has unchanged AT power since release and barrage effectiveness went down significantly. Then play soviets. OK, lets play with your cards: ZIS can keep at bay and Pen any tank, even at long range + the barrage + 6men. As an AT gun, is more than ok (inferior than its axis counterparts, but even good). SU76 has more range and Pen than the StugG + barrage + almost same cost as stug. ISU is a very long range Brummbar + can pen medium tanks and other TD. T70 is a wiping machine since day 1 + scout + good at hunting halftracks. And I not even mention the T34/85 (its a OKW P4 on steroids). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Zis Barrage need longer cooldown26 Oct 2020, 11:11 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2020, 10:36 AMKatitof You miss something. Soviet faction theme are 6 man squads and dual role units. Yep, but most sovs units excels in both roles. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Zis Barrage need longer cooldown26 Oct 2020, 11:08 AM First of all, ZIS barrage should not even be in the game in the first place. ZIS should be a purely AT gun. No other AT gun in the game have AI options + 6men + green cover + same cost as other AT. Its true that barrage cooldown is too quick + long range + do not hit obstacles + insane DMG + very low MU cost. In: COH2 Balance