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Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2021, 18:37 PMVipper

Pioneer are not 30MP combat efficient that CE especially with latest buffs.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2021, 18:40 PMporkloin

If anyone thinks that clown cars and snipers don't counter Pgrens feel free to 1v1 me. I'll play SOV with engies clown car and sniper. You can play OST with pios and Pgrens.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2021, 16:58 PMAerohank

Step1: Make Satchel bundle nade equivalent in time/AoE to make Penals viable anti-infantry after the early/midgame.
Step2: Penal Satchel now requires upgrade so they are no minute 1 Pgrens.
Step3: Penal Satchel, conscript Molos and AT nades are all unlocked together in a single upgrade. This makes combining conscripts and penals in a single build viable.

Penal problems solved.

Optional Step4: Reduce tech cost of T1 and T2, increase tech cost of T3 to make T1 a less 'all or nothing' investment and make T2 more attractive in the early game. This would make T1+T2 builds viable. the changes can be further expanded upon to make Soviets less cheesy by making zis3 barrage a vet ability (it's less needed when a stock grenade is available), and making penal PTRS rifles less effective against infantry since penal/maxim combos could be a thing actually worth making.

Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2021, 14:04 PMC3 TOOTH

Sorry can I ask what exactly make Soviet Tier1 a problems/ bad design?

Is it because of Penal is much better AI than Cons which reliable for AI in early game? Or because Penal doesnt require any side tech which make them a good choice over Cons? Or Penal being much better than M3 & Snip?
Or all of those reasons?

Jump back to quoted post3 Jan 2021, 11:03 AMSerrith

The timing issue i refer to is how long it takes to get pgrens out as well as how many resources you have once they are available to build them. The reason pgrens were not built before going to the HQ was two fold.

First, because of the additional time investment you couldn't afford to wait around for pgrens so you had to rely on a full force of grens or you would get swamped in terms of map control by the time your first pgren hit the field. And with 3-4 grens a pio and an mg42, you are not likely to want or need another infantry squad.

The second issue is that because of the cost of tier 2, you could either choose to get a pgren or a 222/251 but not both and the light vehicles have better shock value at the same timing so you just got a light vehicle instead. But if you skipped on your infantry in the early game and instead go for a pgren you lose the shock potential of your light vehicle which doesn't have a very large window to be uncontested.

By having tier 2 required you end up with the same issue as before. The only advantage is that if you've been banking resources like crazy (which you shouldn't) you'll be able to build a pgren AND a light vehicle simultaneously. But that was never an issue to begin with.