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Panther was a weird hybrid between a firefly and panzer 4. It was a sorta medium ish damage td with a movable turret that could scare off non at weapon infantry and keep armor at bay til support could arrive.

Irl the panther was Germany’s answer to the t34/86 which outgunned the panzer 4 in speed and firepower. In essence the panther is a striker/diver that goes in and holds a point keeping armor and weaker infantry at bay til support arrives.

I miss the old panther is leaned more towards at than ai but could still do damage to infantry if you were lucky.

Panzer 4 is the somewhat lightly armored ai with somewhat weak at the panthers cohort and smaller non identical twin.

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No. IRL, the Panther was Germany's answer to the T34/76.
It was INSPIRED by the T34/76. It was meant to rape the T34/76.

The T34/85 is the Soviet Union's answer to the Panther. Thank you.

Your british fanboyism is showing..

Actually, I agree with everything Katitof said, here.
It was more of an ambush situation, Churchill can't really chase down anything.

And whatever Katitof may be, he is NOT a british fanboi in the least.
More of a calling your bull*-ism.

Personally, I'd like to see all closed-top casemate vehicles have that restricted vision cone thing that the JP4 has until they receive a top gunner upgrade. (SU-76 is open top, so no vision nerf there) I'd also like the StuG III's damage to be nerfed to 120 1) to match the SU-76 and 2) to create a further distinction between the roles of the StuG as a medium killer and the Panther as a heavy killer.

Anyway, ATGs shouldn't be nerfed, but TDs should because Allied TDs are a bit overperforming right now, and StuG still vies for AT roles vs even the recently buffed Panther. Tanks shouldn't be nerfed per se (if following cramped compartment train of thought: logically, because most tank guns ATM are nowhere near as effective as the dedicated ATG) but should have their target sizes tweaked to further differentiate HT and MT and even LT sizes.

I think TDs should be nerfed via RoF (for heavy tank killers like SU-85, Jackson) and mobility and possibly even sight, but not a blanket nerf to accuracy. To reflect how hard it is to hit the tanks, the tanks themselves should get their target sizes tweaked.

- I'm an allied fanboi and even I don't think StuIIIG dmg should be nerfed.
- And I actually LIKED Panther and Heavy Tanks doing 200 dmg. They're heavies with
low ROF. Why should do less DPS than mediums?
But balance, whatever.

But StuIIIG as the top axis tank killer in WW2 ? Just... no.
(I shudder at the irony, I know)(An allied fanboi clamoring for axis NOT to be nerfed)

If anything, I think a tank being penned should stun it, or something.
Metal flying all over inside a tank is a traumatic experience.

Sorry. Been playing WarThunder too much lately
I'd like the Panther to be considered sort of an armored Jackson, but with less
ROF and less range. But it should have more shock to it's gun (200 was nice, during
one of the pre-patch mod test releases).

Cloak ability is for Zis-3/76 and SU-76 methinks.
Maaaybe for SU-85 but I find it useless as it doesn't give any
first strike bonus unlike the German similar ability.

T34/76, T-70? No.

But then I haven't tried it since last patch.
I'll go check

- I noticed OP wants "(TD meaning the su-85, jp4, jackson, and the Firefly. I am not including the atg)" (Nerf Allied AT, not any Axis AT). Nerf all, or don't nerf any. Else, your topic means nothing. Why not change it to "Nerf all allied counters to Axis armor supremacy?".

- Aye. People bitch against RNG, take it out of equation, people will
still bitch.

- Is there a difference between .06 and .060 ? I noticed you type
.05, .06 for Germans, but .050, 0.060 for allied. Is there a any difference?

Once upon a million years ago, I advocated a vision nerf to all closed-casemate armor.

I liked the Jpz4 and SU85 vision mechanics.

(especially early T34s that did not have a turret). The idea was in
wanting to justify the low T34 cost. And giving them that sort of vision
nerf made it harder to do pure T34 spam, and it encouraged combined arms.
- Top gunner removes vision penalty.
- Open turret does not have vision penalty.

Figured it'd work for Axis tanks as well, and encourage people to
purchase the top MG.

In my proposal, side/rear vision was restricted to ~ 1/3 while front
had normal vision cone.

I like the basic idea, but it would nerf some units too much.
I like the STUG as it is right now, further nerfing it would be too much.
Unless Tank Destroyers are nerfed, in which case StuG and Panther and Jp4
should be nerfed too (and ATG). And any tank with a long gun (T34/85, Pz4, E8, Comet, Tiger)