I explicitly mentioned that I am not including the ATG in the very first sentence. On my closing sentence I also reiterate that I am not including the atg, as well as adding that I am not including the stug to the discussion.
I doubt you actually read my post carefully before trying to rant, if you somehow missed my first and last sentence.
- No reason why ATG should be discriminated against as compared to Tank Destroyers.
Why should Tank Destroyers which are more expensive be LESS effective than ATGs?
All tanks which have long guns or AT capable should have a -99% accuracy penalty.
All ATG, AT mines, PzFaust, PzShrek, PIAT, Zooks, AT tank guns to receive a -99% accuracy penalty.
Why not the StuIIIG? It's a tank destroyer. Puma. -99% accuracy nerf and ROF nerf as well.
Pz4, Panther, Tiger, T34/76, T34/85, IS-2, ISU152, Elefants, JgTiger.
Only the Sherman 75, Pz2, Centaur, and Stuart and T70 (Puma to be hard nerfed) keep original hit values.
I think suppression and damage should be removed on all grenades, HMGs, mortars.
Isn't the topic to remove all and any counters from the game?
If you remove counter to German Heavy Armor, then either the game becomes an instant German I-win
button, or you open the door to massive heavy nerfs to German Armor.
- And ATG and StuIIIG would need to be hard nerfed as well.
Definite case of "I love scissors, but please remove rocks, as they ruin my scissors"
Ultimately, your proposal removes allied Destroyers from play, making Germans invincible.
And strong Axis bias if you believe Pak40s and Pak43 and StuIIIG should not be nerfed too.
"Allied Rocks annoy me. But it is important to keep axis rocks to squad Allied scissor spam"
We are no longer talking rock paper scissors, here (ie: Strategy).
It's more a case of "only axis should own guns"
"* Does your proposal include things like -50% chance to hit, say, from a tiger or Panther firing
at Shermans and T34s?
As the Panther is rather much of a Tank Destroyer, it should also receive such a nerf.
... Would would make it completely useless.
Remove suppression from HMGs, you make blobs unstoppable.
And so forth.
Just thought of something. If you hard nerf heavies by -99% accuracy, then they wouldn't be played.
Then TDs are also no longer necessary and can be hard-nerfed -99% accuracy (including ATGs and STUG)
The OP allied TDs exist because of OP German end-game armor. Remove both (and ATG and new balance).
SU76 and StuIIIG and Puma must also receive the same treatment.