Profile of Euan

Aerafield, thanks a lot for the great summary man, appreciate it!

It's a shame that planes got a "buff" but I guess the objective was to make them less random, but it had unintended consequences. Aside from that I think the patch is great, so many well thought out changes. Ost got some teeth, things like infiltration commandos are way more skill based, things seem more evened out in general. Think I'll enjoy a few more games now

Target-tables do exist which generally plays into armour types, but they shouldn't be the go-to or you have a ton of things that need to be memorized regarding how unit X performs against unit Y. It also could lead into the actual unit not being fixed to perform its function, but band-aided solely against that one unit.

Agree, the less memorization the better - even at high skill levels, there are enough tactical and strategic factors that decide a victory without needing to waste your life remembering 20 different stats for 200 different units.

If we want to add diversity amongst troops, we could start by having some infantry units possibly move faster. In CoH games, everyone walks at the same speed, whereas it'd be interesting to see recon or light infantry move faster to allow them to skirmish. That adds an unique layer to a unit's survivability which can be adjusted/compensated through either the unit's firepower, squad-size, and/or target size.

This is a great idea, and as others have said 2~3 simple infantry classes would be cool, e.g. something like:

• standard
  
• light (fast, low HP)
  
• heavy (slow, high HP)
  
• elite (high HP, accurate)
  

where each benefit is not ridiculous (e.g. max 20% speed difference, 30% HP difference).

As for weapons, I'm all for global upgrades in general but I really like the weapon racks system, where squads can be outfitted with weapons of your choosing. This adds another layer of tactical decision making, and is way better than 50 BARs magically appearing on all of your infantry units in the middle of a firefight. If anything it could be expanded so infantry can pick up any combination of MP40 / MP44 / MG42 (or Thompson / BAR / 30cal), riflenade / flamethrower, etc. and it's up to the player to decide their infantry types, squad tactics, and cost / benefit ratio which together give a whole bunch of interesting options.

The most important thing is that as each weapon should have a standard profile (even if e.g. overall accuracy could be higher on elite units or whatever). As long as we don't start tuning every single DPS curve and having 10 different versions of each weapon tuned to each unit, and as long as the weapon icon system is made a little clearer, then people will have a chance to observe and adapt to their opponents tactics.

So thanks to everyone for staying on topic and providing a lot of useful feedback while I was asleep (except the one or two usual shitposters)

So just wondering. Where's the issue here?
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Good question, of course I was not saying that Volks themselves are OP units. I meant to say that their versatility and spammability give OKW a very strong early game in combination with the other OKW units (as soon as the first SWS truck hits the ground). Fuzeless flame nades, sandbags, StGs, and fausts are just too much at the 5-minute mark when SPios/Kubels are also around, and Allies also have to worry about a Luchs. Strummingbird put it very well in this regard.

Of course part of it is a L2P issue for me, I was just wondering about it because I was playing USF all day yesterday, and at my current rank I can beat Wehr 80% of the time, but lose to OKW 80% of the time. I played as OKW today and RedWings kicked my arse as USF, so I'm sure there will be some L2Ping from that replay (well, mostly he just had way better micro, but the aggressive ambulance push was nice!).

However I just felt that depending on the map, the Allies (especially USF) in reality do not have an early-game advantage anymore, which if true, is obviously not good for balance. I do not want to take away anything from OKW late-game, I don't want to take away their flame nade, or their strong vet. IMHO I think a couple of small changes or tweaks to the Volks' abilities would be fine.

First off, this is not a rant thread, I would really like to hear a discussion on this unit from high level players (my OKW rank is fairly low, so feel free to take that into consideration when telling me why I'm wrong!).

At the moment, it seems Volks are just in control of this game, either when I use them or when they are against me. They are cheap and spammable, as is their flame nade, which can shift pretty much any engagement in their favour - it basically denies cover and garrison use to the other team. Their StG upgrade is cheap and effective, and the on-the-field timing means that upgraded Volks often face unupgraded enemies, and can easily push more expensive units off the field in many situations (Rifles, Tommies, and sometimes even Penals, depending on the map). Their faust does not require either vet or side-teching, and so once a few Volks are on the field, OKW has fausts everywhere.

I do admit that Volks are not the best infantry in the game and there are other problems in other factions (USF also blob, emplacements, etc. etc.). However I am surprised nobody is talking about them. At my automatch level OKW win pretty easily by spamming Volks supported with some other units, and lose pretty easily with most other strategies. Playing against them, even if you wipe say 2 squads early, due to the OKW resource situation they will just be rebuilt and come right back, supported by even more SPios, PFusils, or Jagers. That's why I think Volks may be the key to why OKW seems a bit OP in this patch, and I would like to hear some opinions on them! (Just to be clear, I'm talking mostly about 1v1 and I'm not asking how to counter a blob.)

TL,DR: when the OKW early game somehow has more and better infantry than other factions (even USF), and later can support them with their powerful support units, I feel that OKW has been left in a strange place due to the previous sequence of patches.

Possible changes I can think of:

• Cost increase to 280mp (straight nerf but IMO this is the correct price for Volks)
  
• Replace 2 x StG with 5 x mp40 (so that they don't get a no-brainer all-range upgrade)
  
• Give the flame nade a long fuse (this is what the balance team did in their mod)
  
• Add a tech or vet cost for their abilities (c.f. cons / rifles)
  

Jump back to quoted post16 Jun 2017, 02:09 AMEuan

Tommies, they are a unique and fun infantry to play (kinda like Osttruppen).

wtf? osttruppen have no armor and bad accuracy.

IS have great survivabilty and great accurracy...equiped with double light vickers...they shredd all in secounds...ostruppen are only a meatshild for sniper, grens etc

Forgive the lack of clarity. I meant to say that both Tommies and Osttruppen feel unique and fun to play, to me at least, which is nothing to do with their strength.

Yeah, piats got price increase and buff at the same time, easier to hit tanks with it. So it's a cost effective alternative to snare. And you can equip it to any infantry you like.

Well, the lack of snare still limits a lot your ability to actually kill vehicles, rather than just scare them off, but yeah I see your point.