150mm vs 203mm
???
Actually the Sexton has 87mm shells, while the Hummel housed the bigger 155mm, so if anything, it should have double the damage of a sexton.
I would much prefer a Nebelwerfer.
It is unique in that it isn't a vehicle.
It's kind of a crazy technology and thus suits OKW.
Lastly, it is a well-known, very recognizeable asset from WW2.
Eh, OKW already have mobile nebelwefer-esque unit, the support gun.
Plus, it'd be historically more accurate if Ostheer get it, as Hummels were primarily deployed on the eastern front
Loads of doctrines that could use overhauls/buffs
Most of these commanders have good abilities, but are just too weak. Others are just overshadowed by better, more useful commanders.
Dont hold your breath mate - sega seems to be focused more on $$$ revenue for new DLC shit, rather than fixing things that are broken
I think we gonna see another commander. I mean, we saw 3 different faces for USF commanders. We already saw 2 of them, so 1 is left.
My guess is, we gonna have one more USF and OKW commander, maybe with Hummel.
Fingers crossed eh?
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Ghost barb wire? Wiring all green cover? Circle-ghost-wiring fuel and muni points? Wiring building doors? Ghost-wiring retreat paths?
Sorry, its l2p, barb wire can change whole match.
What exactly is Ghost wire?
*rant with a British Accent*
Did someone piss in your tea this morning or something lad?
I wasn't being an elitest, was merely pointing out what I had learned. |
American infantrymen of the third U.S. army, camouflaged in snow suits, advance through a street damaged by shell and bombs in Wiltz, Luxembourg
Patton. An American general that even the Germans admired. Some say if he had been in Eisenhower's place, Allied troops would have entered Berlin six months earlier. And may be the American army would have soon after fought the Red Army......
Patton foresaw that Soviet Russia would become a threat to America. He wanted to ally with the Germans (not Nazi) to fight the communists. He had a major 'flaw' in the then prevailing conditions; he was anti-Semitic.
At the end of World War II, one of America's top military leaders accurately assessed the shift in the balance of world power which that war had produced and foresaw the enormous danger of communist aggression against the West. Alone among U.S. leaders he warned that America should act immediately,while her supremacy was unchallengeable, to end that danger. Unfortunately, his warning went unheeded, and he was quickly silenced by a convenient "accident" which took his life.
Thirty-two years ago, in the terrible summer of 1945, the U.S. Army had just completed the destruction of Europe and had set up a government of military occupation amid the ruins to rule the starving Germans and deal out victors' justice to the vanquished. General George S. Patton, commander of the U.S. Third Army, became military governor of the greater portion of the American occupation zone of Germany.
It was only in the final days of the war and during his tenure as military governor of Germany -- after he had gotten to know both the Germans and America's "gallant Soviet allies" -- that Patton's understanding of the true situation grew and his opinions changed. In his diary and in many letters to his family, friends, various military colleagues, and government officials, he expressed his new understanding and his apprehensions for the future. His diary and his letters were published in 1974 by the Houghton Mifflin Company under the title The Patton Papers.
Several months before the end of the war, General Patton had recognized the fearful danger to the West posed by the Soviet Union, and he had disagreed bitterly with the orders which he had been given to hold back his army and wait for the Red Army to occupy vast stretches of German, Czech, Rumanian, Hungarian, and Yugoslav territory, which the Americans could have easily taken instead.
On May 7, 1945, just before the German capitulation, Patton had a conference in Austria with U.S. Secretary of War Robert Patterson. Patton was gravely concerned over the Soviet failure to respect the demarcation lines separating the Soviet and American occupation zones. He was also alarmed by plans in Washington for the immediate partial demobilization of the U.S. Army.
Patton said to Patterson: "Let's keep our boots polished, bayonets sharpened, and present a picture of force and strength to the Red Army. This is the only language they understand and respect."
Patterson replied, "Oh, George, you have been so close to this thing so long, you have lost sight of the big picture."
Patton rejoined:
"I understand the situation. Their (the Soviet) supply system is inadequate to maintain them in a serious action such as I could put to them. They have chickens in the coop and cattle on the hoof -- that's their supply system. They could probably maintain themselves in the type of fighting I could give them for five days. After that it would make no difference how many million men they have, and if you wanted Moscow I could give it to you. They lived on the land coming down. There is insufficient left for them to maintain themselves going back. Let's not give them time to build up their supplies. If we do, then . . . we have had a victory over the Germans and disarmed them, but we have failed in the liberation of Europe; we have lost the war!"
Patton's urgent and prophetic advice went unheeded by Patterson and the other politicians and only served to give warning about Patton's feelings to the alien conspirators behind the scenes in New York, Washington, and Moscow.
The more he saw of the Soviets, the stronger Patton's conviction grew that the proper course of action would be to stifle communism then and there, while the chance existed. Later in May 1945 he attended several meetings and social affairs with top Red Army officers, and he evaluated them carefully. He noted in his diary on May 14:
"I have never seen in any army at any time, including the German Imperial Army of 1912, as severe discipline as exists in the Russian army. The officers, with few exceptions, give the appearance of recently civilized Mongolian bandits."
And Patton's aide, General Hobart Gay, noted in his own journal for May 14: "Everything they (the Russians) did impressed one with the idea of virility and cruelty."
Nevertheless, Patton knew that the Americans could whip the Reds then -- but perhaps not later. On May 18 he noted in his diary:
"In my opinion, the American Army as it now exists could beat the Russians with the greatest of ease, because, while the Russians have good infantry, they are lacking in artillery, air, tanks, and in the knowledge of the use of the combined arms, whereas we excel in all three of these. If it should be necessary to fight the Russians, the sooner we do it the better."
Two days later he repeated his concern when he wrote his wife: "If we have to fight them, now is the time. From now on we will get weaker and they stronger."
PATTON ON THE SS
SS means no more in Germany than being a Democrat in America -- that is not to be quoted. I mean by that that initially the SS people were special sons of bitches, but as the war progressed they ran out of sons of bitches and then they put anybody in there. Some of the top SS men will be treated as criminals, but there is no reason for trying someone who was drafted into this outfit . . ."
PATTON SAID THAT......
"Today we received orders . . . in which we were told to give the Jews special accommodations. If for Jews, why not Catholics, Mormo ns, etc? . . . We are also turning over to the French several hundred thousand prisoners of war to be used as slave labor in France. It is amusing to recall that we fought the Revolution in defense of the rights of man and the Civil War to abolish slavery and have now gone back on both principles."
"Actually, the Germans are the only decent people left in Europe. it's a choice between them and the Russians. I prefer the Germans."
"What we are doing is to destroy the only semi-modern state in Europe, so that Russia can swallow the whole."
ON DESTROYED BERLIN....
After a visit to ruined Berlin, he wrote his wife on July 21, 1945: "Berlin gave me the blues. We have destroyed what could have been a good race, and we are about to replace them with Mongolian savages. And all Europe will be communist. It's said that for the first week after they took it (Berlin), all women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped. I could have taken it (instead of the Soviets) had I been allowed."
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"It is my present thought . . . that when I finish this job, which will be around the first of the year, I shall resign, not retire, because if I retire I will still have a gag in my mouth . . . I should not start a limited counterattack, which would be contrary to my military theories, but should wait until I can start an all- out offensive . . . ."
Sorry for the Double post, but I just had to say it:
Sounds like he both respected and despised the Germans |
The only mobile (I assume you meant) retreat point is the USFs major and the Brits ability to make forward retreat points. When you say "like all the other (factions) do, you mean only USF and UKF.
Osteer, UKF, USF, Red Army - all bar the OKW have half tracks from which you can re-enforce squads |
Hummel?, that would be almost like a B4 howitzer firing 4 times, if the Sexton and the Priest get buffed, then go right ahead (Maybe it could still destroy bridges with 1 shot like in COH 1)
No, no, that would be OP for sure.
A bit more damage than Sexton, but less than B4. If B4 can destroy a bridge in 1 shot, then Hummel should do 2 |
if it performs like the sexton yeah go for it
The Hummel in vCoH had a 220mm shell and only fired 4 of them in a salvo.
I would say mobility of a Preist/Sexton with slightly more fire-power than the standard Axis arty available.
We have enough new doctrines. I say fix the old ones.
Which ones in particular you think are boken, and why? |
I'm talking about hard retreat like avoiding death from calliopes or being pinned by hmg. Soft retreat to reinforce your men is a given.
I see.
My gripe is OKW do not have a manoeuvrable mobile spawn point like all the other ones do (and to me they seem the most mechanised of all).
Kinda shite, but guess I'll deal with it |
The final mission in MOH:Airborne Assault is jumping into a flak tower like this, but except taller and with more layers of anti-aircraft guns.
I too have a fascination with Flak towers.
That was an absolute INSANE mission. Quite liked it.
Nothing says FUCK YOU to Allied armour like an 88 perched atop a 25 story concrete building. |
Relic should add Pgrens with MP44 night scopes!
One of the OKW commanders has this feature |
Hi,
Just thinking out loud: We haven't seen buildable / callable arty for OKW.
Relic guys, if you're browsing, and decide that an Arty Commander is a good idea for the OKW, I would absolutely LOVE to see the comeback of the Hummel howitzer.
Thoughts? |