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OKW Arty Doctrine

22 Dec 2015, 23:02 PM
#1
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Hi,

Just thinking out loud: We haven't seen buildable / callable arty for OKW.
Relic guys, if you're browsing, and decide that an Arty Commander is a good idea for the OKW, I would absolutely LOVE to see the comeback of the Hummel howitzer.

Thoughts?
23 Dec 2015, 01:33 AM
#2
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if it performs like the sexton yeah go for it
23 Dec 2015, 02:19 AM
#3
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We have enough new doctrines. I say fix the old ones.
23 Dec 2015, 02:55 AM
#4
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But Relic/Sega Need dem MONIES!
23 Dec 2015, 03:04 AM
#5
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Dec 2015, 01:33 AMpugzii
if it performs like the sexton yeah go for it


The Hummel in vCoH had a 220mm shell and only fired 4 of them in a salvo.
I would say mobility of a Preist/Sexton with slightly more fire-power than the standard Axis arty available.

jump backJump back to quoted post23 Dec 2015, 02:19 AMF1sh
We have enough new doctrines. I say fix the old ones.

Which ones in particular you think are boken, and why?
23 Dec 2015, 03:17 AM
#6
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Hummel?, that would be almost like a B4 howitzer firing 4 times, if the Sexton and the Priest get buffed, then go right ahead (Maybe it could still destroy bridges with 1 shot like in COH 1)

23 Dec 2015, 03:30 AM
#7
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Dec 2015, 03:17 AMATCF
Hummel?, that would be almost like a B4 howitzer firing 4 times, if the Sexton and the Priest get buffed, then go right ahead (Maybe it could still destroy bridges with 1 shot like in COH 1)


No, no, that would be OP for sure.
A bit more damage than Sexton, but less than B4. If B4 can destroy a bridge in 1 shot, then Hummel should do 2
23 Dec 2015, 06:21 AM
#8
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Dec 2015, 01:33 AMpugzii
if it performs like the sexton yeah go for it


No way man, it's krupp steel, not some allied piece fo shit! Hihihi
And through this, I even quoted an allied crew member in COH2.
23 Dec 2015, 07:49 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Dec 2015, 03:17 AMATCF
Hummel?, that would be almost like a B4 howitzer firing 4 times, if the Sexton and the Priest get buffed, then go right ahead (Maybe it could still destroy bridges with 1 shot like in COH 1)



150mm vs 203mm

???
23 Dec 2015, 08:36 AM
#10
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150mm vs 203mm

???


you forgot to add here krupp stell coeficient.

So 150 *3 = 450 mm (krupp stell)
23 Dec 2015, 11:25 AM
#11
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I would much prefer a Nebelwerfer.
It is unique in that it isn't a vehicle.
It's kind of a crazy technology and thus suits OKW.
Lastly, it is a well-known, very recognizeable asset from WW2.
23 Dec 2015, 13:35 PM
#12
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150mm vs 203mm

???


All right you caught me, basically it could work like copy of ML-20 howitzer, dealing 200 damage with a 8-10 shot barrage, enough to lockdown an Area or shell enemy´s base to the ground,

Or make it fire 4 shots with 320dmg, so it can act as a shock unit when it appears
23 Dec 2015, 13:51 PM
#13
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Which ones in particular you think are boken, and why?


Loads of doctrines that could use overhauls/buffs

German Infantry Doctrine
German Mechanized Doctrine
Jaeger Infantry Doctrine
Defensive Doctrine (both factions)
Blitzkrieg Doctrine
Conscript Support Tactics
Guard Rifle Combined Arms Tactics
NKVD Rifle Disruption Tactics
Recon Support Company
Royal Artillery Regiment
Firestorm Doctrine

Most of these commanders have good abilities, but are just too weak. Others are just overshadowed by better, more useful commanders.

23 Dec 2015, 14:03 PM
#14
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I think we gonna see another commander. I mean, we saw 3 different faces for USF commanders. We already saw 2 of them, so 1 is left.

My guess is, we gonna have one more USF and OKW commander, maybe with Hummel.
31 Dec 2015, 02:37 AM
#15
avatar of Mistah_S

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150mm vs 203mm
???


Actually the Sexton has 87mm shells, while the Hummel housed the bigger 155mm, so if anything, it should have double the damage of a sexton.


jump backJump back to quoted post23 Dec 2015, 11:25 AMFluffi
I would much prefer a Nebelwerfer.
It is unique in that it isn't a vehicle.
It's kind of a crazy technology and thus suits OKW.
Lastly, it is a well-known, very recognizeable asset from WW2.


Eh, OKW already have mobile nebelwefer-esque unit, the support gun.
Plus, it'd be historically more accurate if Ostheer get it, as Hummels were primarily deployed on the eastern front


jump backJump back to quoted post23 Dec 2015, 13:51 PMF1sh

Loads of doctrines that could use overhauls/buffs

Most of these commanders have good abilities, but are just too weak. Others are just overshadowed by better, more useful commanders.


Dont hold your breath mate - sega seems to be focused more on $$$ revenue for new DLC shit, rather than fixing things that are broken


I think we gonna see another commander. I mean, we saw 3 different faces for USF commanders. We already saw 2 of them, so 1 is left.
My guess is, we gonna have one more USF and OKW commander, maybe with Hummel.

Fingers crossed eh?
31 Dec 2015, 04:33 AM
#16
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Actually the Sexton has 87mm shells, while the Hummel housed the bigger 155mm, so if anything, it should have double the damage of a sexton.


he was talking about the b4.
31 Dec 2015, 06:40 AM
#17
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Hummel for afrika corps pls
i feel wespe is better for OKW
31 Dec 2015, 07:03 AM
#18
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Dec 2015, 11:25 AMFluffi
I would much prefer a Nebelwerfer.
It is unique in that it isn't a vehicle.
It's kind of a crazy technology and thus suits OKW.
Lastly, it is a well-known, very recognizeable asset from WW2.

I dunno, I want to see the Nebelwerfer but I think it would be too much like the Stuka Zu Fuss on OKW.
31 Dec 2015, 16:42 PM
#19
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Hummel would be a great addition for OKW though!
31 Dec 2015, 19:17 PM
#20
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maybe be add Nebelwerfer act like ML-20 stuff...
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