The vet 5 is a jk |
vet bonus: (if I have not missed anything)
Jagdpanzer IV/70 (V)
1) Unlocks the 'Cautious Movement' ability
2) +25% HP +20% accuracy
3) +20% rotation speed, +20% speed, -10% reload
4) -15% reload, +15% accuracy
5) For first shot fired out of camouflage +25% damage & +25% accuracy & +25% penetration
for comparison reason:
SU-85 Medium Tank Destroyer
Unlocks the 'Tracking' ability
+30% penetration, +30% accuracy
-20% reload, +20% rotation speed, +20% speed, +20% ac/de-celeration
M36 'Jackson' Tank Destroyer
Unlocks the 'HVAP' ability
+30% accuracy, -20% reload
-15% reload, +30% penetration
Sherman Vc 'Firefly'
acceleration + 15%
-25% reload, Weapon rotation+ 35%
Accuracy +30%, +40 Damage
So imo a vet 3 JP 4 has inferior bonus to a vet 3 SU-85 to M36 I would even go so far to say even to FF.
Veterancy 5 ambush modifiers from +150% to +25%
fixed for ya |
could work but i would rework the vet 1 too, make it like heat rounds |
The panther isnt meant to counter the IS2... its meant to counter allied mediums... use your own superheavy tanks/tds to counter the IS2...
And if you think that allied heavy TDs shouldnt be countering panthers then youve admitted bias...
Then again we should just ignore this troll thread from the guy that loses panthers to AECS like a scrub... m sorry, which TD I'm supposed to use ? Both jp4 a d stug have weak pen and the stug even has 50 range |
how about new 250 half truck
that can upgrade to mg 34 , mortar half truck or AT half truck, similar to V coh ?
https://companyofheroes.fandom.com/wiki/Light_AT_Halftrack
every upgrade would cost fuel and mp based on the path and add some more health
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i would just add another medic or 2 to the base |
He left such a massive impression on me that I completely forgot he existed at all.....
very strange considering he has fear propaganda healing buffs and an elite body guard with very low RA all for 260 mp |
They kind of have it, given its doctrinal and you need an outpost that costs fuel and then you need to pay muni each time you'd want to use it, but its there.
or u have the commissar |
P4 has better far penetration than all 3 allied mediums, while also having better armor, and armor buff with vet. So it's pen chances against allied mediums are indeed better
Do you even have a point you're trying to argue here? You agree with OP that panther and pak need penetration buffs? Because that's the topic here, it's not whatever you decide is the topic....
i would prefer heat shell for stug with vet 1 |
My Sherman pen goes 140/120/100.
But apart from that, the raw pen value is pretty misleading. We should compare pen chances against a certain target, for example against other stock mediums.
OST P4 has ~70% pen chance against Sherman/Cromwell at range 20, it's 65% the other way around. The bigger the range, the better the P4s perform, at lower ranges P4 and Sherman/Cromwell become pretty much similar (all calculated with "my" penetration stats of Sherman).
This system sounds alright considering the slightly lower price for Sherman/Cromwell.
no we shouldnt we are not comparing medium tanks, we are taking down the biased claim form darkarmadillo that p4 has more pen than other medium
take in the context some time |