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Jump back to quoted post16 Nov 2017, 19:35 PMZombiFrancis

Here: https://www.coh2.org/topic/52541/friendly-fire/page/1

Jump back to quoted post14 Nov 2017, 18:09 PM__deleted__

A proper argumentation would look similarly to this:

Hi,

I have found lighting war too strong at the moments mainly because of the ability synergy is too strong.

The Tiger alone is very potent as a heavy tank, because it is a) one of the best generalist tanks in a game and b) requires no teching at all. This tank alone is not OpieOP or root of all OST problems but put together with SCAS ability that is able to literaly vaporise any tank in the ground zero zone makes the doctrine OP. In my opinion Stuka Close Air Support is overperforming ATM and should be toned down. Giving Allied player a change to evade the impact zone by adding an ability delay would solve many problems in my opinion.

Multiplied by G43s that allow Ostheer Grenadiers to go toe-to-toe with 1Bar Riflemens and Penals and by recoup losses that gives Ostheer player Ostruppen swarms this doctrine surely becomes one of the best in the game. Putting all other Ostheer doctrines into shadow, removing faction versatility and playability.
It also forces Allies factions to go the same build order over and over again - forcing them to abuse Allied Cheese in order to compete with the doctrine.

My suggestion would be to at the start decrease SCAS damage by 20% and add 6-10 second delay to all loiters in order to give the enemy an option to disengage before his tanks melt away.

If this nerf alone is not enough to balance the doctrine and playtesting shows that more needs to be done then I suggest to increase Tiger fuel cost by 25% as long as the tier3/tier4 is built. The same will apply to all other call in heavy and medium vehicles, in order to get rid of call-in cheese.

This in my opinion will hit the doctrine rather hard and it wont need any more nerfs mainly because synergy of Tiger and SCAS are making the doctrine OP. Recoup losses isnt anything particulary OP alone,
so isnt the strategical movement. G43s are strong, but they are both hardcountered by vet3 Riflemen with 2 Bars at all ranges and by vet3 Penals and vet3 lmg IS at long range so counterplay surely is there.

Also I think that other doctrines that share the same fate -being OP and overshadowing other doctrines -
- should be rebalanced too, so both Axis and Allied cheese is removed and everyone will get opporunities and strategies to play with.

If we only nerf Ostheer A++ Doctrine we many quickly find out that now every Allied Faction outpowers Ostheer with its cheese - a thing we want to avoid.

There are my opinions, what do you think ?

Discuss,
Hector


This is what I consider a serious post which explain persons statements well and is a fertile soil for a fruitful balance discussion.

PS: I have also included my own opinions about the Lighting war doctrine in the Italic example post so feel free to talk about them too, as they are my opinion.

Cheers

Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2017, 19:35 PMjagd wölfe

LOL, so the issue is that after a total of 270 fuel of teching, and having accumulated at least 280 fuel, without spending for anything else, okw player can get it "immediately" instead of waiting 30 seconds for building it ?
Gamebreaking...

You would be able to complain about okw troops having more textures and ost having cooler quotes than soviets...

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2017, 22:54 PMLatch

1. Good good
2. They can can't they? I've had it before I know I have unless, it's actually been changed so they can't allow it...