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Thread: December Balance Preview9 Dec 2017, 15:09 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 15:01 PMAustralian Magic For 15 more fuel Churchill gets 1400 HP, support abilities, plus it's a non-doc and has better gun and MG. On the other hand KV1 has better armor (240 - 270 is rather irrelevant difference), speed which also irrelevant for a damage sponge unit - it's not like you will flank anything with 5.1. There is not a single point why KV1 should be way worse damage sponge than Churchill if they are priced almost excatly the same in terms of tech and unit itself. spedd is revelant while running away , church has smoke cause they dont have a mobile mortar to give them , 30 armor is a lot (ex. ost p4 cost 25 less than okw p4 for 50 armor that can be gain back at vet 2, and okw has a bit worse stats too) and they get 0.8 damage modifier ,alvin locks you out of comet and the gun is almost the same (see stats i linked) In: Lobby
Thread: December Balance Preview9 Dec 2017, 14:54 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 14:49 PMAustralian Magic Lel - I knew that 140 seemed a bit too cheap Your point. Still doesn't change the fact that KV1 costs more or less excatly the same as Churchill, tied to tech as well but way weaker. lol dude how much have you not played ost ? to forget about the BP they are there from COH 1 here the stats for kv1 and church http://www.stat.coh2.hu/squad.php?filename=churchill_default_squad_mp http://www.stat.coh2.hu/squad.php?filename=kv-1_commander_mp the 15 fuel differnce is fair for less pop less mp less target sive more armor and more speed it could use a pen buff (its 100 for some reason) In: Lobby
Thread: December Balance Preview9 Dec 2017, 14:47 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 14:40 PMAustralian Magic Wut? Stop diging. Your grave is already deep enough. OST: T1 - 80 + 10 T2 - 200 + 20 T3 - 240 + 60 T4 - 200 + 50 Sum - 720 + 140 Where the hell you counted 215? Starting fuel for OST and SU is excatly the same - 20 and if Soviets go for T70 or SU76 they also pay more... Lel. Brilliant argument. Firstly you say tht Churchill is tied to tech, while KV1. Then you say that even then it's not the same becasue SU tech is cheaper. Then you bring lel argument that if Brits go for AEC it's more expensive. dude the battle phases ? and i meant about soviet and brits staring fuel not ost i know they are the same, second the churchil is still more expensive third brits like ost is a late game faction soviet is not In: Lobby
Thread: December Balance Preview9 Dec 2017, 14:25 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 14:09 PMAustralian Magic Get your facts staight. You said that Churchill is T4 while KV1 is not. Now time for funny fact: You need 660 MP + 195 fuel to unlock Churchill You need 640 MP + 195 fuel to unlock KV1 Funny like fuel cost for Churchill and KV1 is excatly the same, aye? Wanna more? Ostheer T4 (afaik) costs 720 MP + 140 fuel 140 rushing you mean right ? its 215 skiping tier 1 for ost (90 + 25 + 25 +15 + 40 +20) and if im not wrong soviet start with more fuel and if they get all the tier brits still pay more with aec or bof In: Lobby
Thread: December Balance Preview9 Dec 2017, 14:12 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 14:07 PMKurtWilde Its a 145 fuel tank and it is tied to Soviet tier 4. What tier are you supposed to link it with soviet tier 4 is ost tier 3 and brit tier 3 In: Lobby
Thread: December Balance Preview9 Dec 2017, 14:02 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 13:59 PMAustralian Magic KV1 is now tied to tech (T4) like the ost tier 4 right ? come on you know what i ninted is fuel cost not the tier it self soviet tier 4 is just other faction tier 3 and you know that In: Lobby
Thread: December Balance Preview9 Dec 2017, 13:54 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 09:11 AMAustralian Magic It sounds better but still doesn't change the fact that KV1 has no purpose and it's most indistinct tank in game. To give it some purpose I'd add smoke ability or something else to support advancing infantry because it's still way worst than Churchill while being doctrinal and cost only 15F less. churchil is tier 4 kv 1 is not In: Lobby
Thread: December Balance Preview9 Dec 2017, 13:51 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Dec 2017, 10:03 AMDangerous-Cloth Woah woah woah. More than double the build time of a unit this late into the balance patch iterations? What is the reason to more than double the build time? the rush , is fair so the oppnent can at least get a counter in time In: Lobby
Thread: December Balance Preview8 Dec 2017, 18:25 PM Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2017, 14:35 PMMr.Smith Which commanders/abilities do you have in mind? T-34/85 don't come in howitzer doctrines. for starter the at ambush In: Lobby
Thread: December Balance Preview7 Dec 2017, 20:43 PM i gotta say good job mod team the game is reaching a balnced phase and the commander rework are great especially the air related ones could you bring some of the already buffed/changed ability to the other commander too so we could at least breath some life in them too (like you did with the ppsh package)? In: Lobby