Right now okw has some problem, not about Up or OP faction/unit but about identity as a faction and units (pup chen doesn't work well at at gun most is just hit-and-run, volks are supposed to be meat shield but with ober coming so late they need buff to work, and we see were all of that lead), I propose some changes that will most likely fix the faction : - volks stg to fuer storm doc, and they get 3 stg instead of 2 for 80 mun
- mp 40 as baseline upgrade for 50 mun (they keep inc granade at the start and they lose it if they upgrade)
- pupchen changed to pack 38 cost 300mp less pen higher fire rate (with 60 range and no retreat first strike bonus out of stealth with more pen, accuracy and reload) vet bonus could be reworked too
- ober moved to tier 1 for 360 mp and no mg 34 till tier 3 unlock
- infrared halftruck moved to mech and stuka moved to tier 3 fuel cost form 100 to 85
- mg 34 and pack 38 unlock after first truck call in (no need to place it)
- isg (leig.18) buffed accuracy and damage vs garrison units (so it work by killing single model with low aoe vs the mortar aoe damage)
this would make the faction very similar to vcoh werm keeping volks weak and used to shield while ober would deal the damage, stuka would come later but a bit cheaper, with this we could even let the tier be linear by reducing their cost a bit
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USF mortar refuse to fire smoke rounds pretty often same of the flare of the soviet one |
Quality Post as i see :> But prove me wrong here, which allied tank that can come earlier than jp4/p4 can just overroll a puma? I'm also not saying that you should go Puma like right away, go t1, get flak ht and map control in early stages won't be that much of a problem
medic or mech ? |
OKW is fine, just #adapt.
Enemy has more fuel than you whole game? go t2 and get a puma. You can kill any tank with Puma and raketen. ahahahahaha |
Waiting for all these "IS-2 is fine" players to post a video/replay of them using the IS-2 to the "Its as good as the King" and it not getting dunked on/missing all the time/Being a waste of time.
Until then the unit is way too trash with its high scatter, super insane low ROF, Pen and damage.
Show me otherwise. why tiger 2 and not tiger 1 ? |
Sorry but thats not a balance issue but a l2p issue.
You cant expect Volks (without stgs) to outdamage a full health penal squad that sits in heavy cover at medium range, while your volks just stand in the open.
Next time consider to create more space between the volks and the penals. Or as in this situation where its 2v1, try to just charge up to the penal as soon as it had to relocate because of the incendiary nade. 2 volks would have outgunned the penals badly.
that’s the problem actually, the penal deal more than double the damage of volks at close range |
I see it only when I build it myself. This tank is in a very bad position:
- poor performance
- only in two commanders
- unnecessary, in order to survive and build an IS-2 you need: Katyusha - the only Soviet anti-blob unit, SU-85 for AT protection.
And When IS-2 is ready for build it is unnecessary for you: or everything is bad and this piece of uselessness will not help you, or you are in a good position and you do not need it, or you do not have the resources.
shouldn’t this apply to tiger too ? |
Surprised this thread got to the IS2 which IIRC wasn't even touched in the new patch, even though this thread is about the new patch.
IS2 scatter is too high, which makes it an RNG cannon. I'd like to see its scatter buffed, but at the cost of something else. Preferably armor since this is the 1 unit that the StuG and JP4 actually struggle to pen, but buffing their pen would lower the effective armor of other allied tanks with high armor significantly such as the comet and pershing. they actually buffed the scatter of the is2 in this patch ,please read them before writing |
The IS-2 is doctrinal, the KT is not...
How often do you see the IS-2? it has SUCH a long reload speed, and it's scatter is huge. The penetration is shit, it's a joke of a heavy tank which is why almost nobody uses it.
I can think of so many better investments than an IS-2. Yet the big 122 gun apparently struggled to fight anything out there... it's a massive disappointment. I can't believe someone would even argue that the IS-2 is somehow " OP "
What world are these people in ? XD
.... it has more pen than tiger... |
but imo TWP didn't get nerf'd, how is a stun a nerf? what just because it deals less damage? hah. When you got gun disabled you ran. Now, you can't run. it's not a stun
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