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Thread: [Feuersturm] MP40 and Hetzer19 May 2020, 13:49 PM Jump back to quoted post19 May 2020, 13:41 PMKONIUX27 Cav riflemen are 1CP and 70 munnies to upgrade assgrens dont have nades smokes and snares, same with assault sections at least from the start they are also more expensive the 70 mun are for the thompson, they start with smg all the same In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Partisans are underpowered19 May 2020, 13:27 PM Jump back to quoted post19 May 2020, 13:24 PMSerrith I can accept that 210mp is fairly cheap for AI partisans particularly given they don't need to upgrade their PPSH's. However, they are not worth 26mp for reinforcement. Their vet is also really painful as it doesn't give any substantial increase to their durability. Other ambush units get substantially better RA through a combination of stock RA and vet-and more models in the case of commandos. Quite simply they bleed you too hard to make them a worthwhile long term investment and their initial impact on the field is fairly low given their lackluster TOTAL SQUAD dps for a CQC unit. Reduce the reinforcement cost to 23 and give them an additional 8-10% received accuracy at vet 3. ok are we buffing ass green too as well cause they have like the same cruve of dps , if they are lack cluster imagine an infantry unit that cost more no ambush and no infiltration and again they cost 26 mp to reinforce cause they are basically ass green, but cost much less from the start ,like a lot less if u count infiltration In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The power of Panzerfussilier19 May 2020, 13:23 PM Jump back to quoted post19 May 2020, 12:59 PMKONIUX27 have you ever played penals vs pfusies? pfusies scale better and they are 270+25 (and 80ammo) while penals are t1+300+27 you will win early game but then your penals gets useless when pfusies get vet and g43s, also you will suffer from no snares and you cant really use clown car cuz pfusies have snares not like volks have you ever played penals vs pfusies? they have almost the same vet with penal having more ACC instead of RA and no penal don't cost an extra 27 ,p fusi need to pay for the 6 men 25 mp and the 80 munitions while penal lack snare, u can use cons for that,u mix and match the unit, no need to full blob, in fact only 4vs 4 even goes pfusi blob , they are almost never used in tournament, cause volks are better early and cost less mun and mp yes i played vs pfusi with penals, just use cons emrge for support and mix the units so they cover the weakness,and u can still chose the comander that u want, hell u can go for stv cons to counter pfusi too, they will do a bit worse (they don't get 6 stv) as they have less stv but they cost much less (240 +60 vs 295 + 80) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Partisans are underpowered19 May 2020, 12:58 PM Jump back to quoted post19 May 2020, 11:04 AMFire and Terror do you keep in mind that stormtroopers have much higher dps and rec acc to begin with? They actually have a role since they really schred support weapons and infantry if they get close. Nobody needs an anbush unit that costs the same to resfresh as assoult grens and looses to them. Have you actually tried using partisans? They are litterly quite a joke and a big meme. Nobody wants partisan terminators to return but partisans ability is hands down the worst sov ability with vehicle detection yes but we were talking about scaling, they have better base stats because they cost more 210 mp vs 340 and they need to upgrade too and what's this about overpriced reinforce, they are 4 men ass green with ambush, build mines and infiltration they cost the same to reinforce but fucking 210 mp to call in (if we consider the infiltration is priced around 50mp they would cost 160 mp while they have a performance of 250 mp unit ) and have almost the same weapon profile why not make them free and have them become 7 men at vet 1 with 1 cost to reinforce too ? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The power of Panzerfussilier19 May 2020, 12:43 PM Jump back to quoted post19 May 2020, 10:06 AMKONIUX27 cuz you cant go clown car and after they get g43 your penals just melt and bleed no ? thye have a bit better dps close range but same dps at mid and better at long range all while being cheaper, In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pioneers after early game19 May 2020, 01:03 AM they have enough compared to them, problem is they cost more In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The power of Panzerfussilier19 May 2020, 00:02 AM Jump back to quoted post18 May 2020, 19:54 PMKONIUX27 penals are worst thing you can go vs PFs why tho ? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Partisans are underpowered18 May 2020, 23:56 PM can we have some real stats one why they are bad ? cause until now i heard the most ironic reasons they are bad cause they fells Up when i play them, BTW they are so bad i never play them In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pioneers after early game18 May 2020, 23:01 PM Jump back to quoted post18 May 2020, 22:15 PMthedarkarmadillo Vision and healing. And sandbags. And close range DPS enough that they are an immediate threat to a weapon team they get up to. Assymetric balance has the CE easier to generate combat value from but less potential and less utility. 30mp is more than fair for the disparity. u mean the vet 1 ? or the bunker than can be built by green too ? sandbags are there cause u can't put them on green, i u want they can be removed from cons and put on CE they have worse dos than RE and can't go to 5 men, UKF just got a non doc CQC cause they did not have good CQC but by ur logic RE would have been enough In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Partisans are underpowered18 May 2020, 22:57 PM Jump back to quoted post18 May 2020, 22:42 PMFire and Terror ]Ai partisans need better scaling for the lategame, and maybe a refrehsment cost reduction. There are just so many infantry sqads that simply outperform partisans. I would suggest giving the ambush bonus at vet 1 and adding some more rec acc with vet. Refresh could go down to 22-21 ish. Whats the point of an infiltration unit, that dies to vehicles and basically evrything in the axis rooster exept vet0 grens and vet0 volks? They are simply to punishing to use At partisans are a big joke, very expensive to refresh and nearly to no impact it is a reason why no one plays OKW sturm with schreck. One is not enough. Their ambush capacities are a joke, and your better off with ptrs cons which are also considered a meme. I actually would suggest them to be reworked in having ptrs and the con ptrs nade assoult. Since ptrs are better against vehicles and you wont be hunting tanks out in the open anyways Becouse of high cost and shit survivability (the tank mgs just murder you) please do look up partisan vet vs stormtropper vet , tell me how bad it is In: COH2 Balance