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The main issue with the ability is that it is in commander that usually does not built T4 thus does not have access to Obers .

Although I personally would redesign the ability.
faction changes:
MP-40 upgrade to volks
2 Mp-40 to SP
IR&HT doctrinal

the ability now give access to MP-44 Vamp for all stock OKW infatry and to IR&HT. MP-44 get a bonus firing on unit "lighted up" with IR&HT.

It has 720hp which is lower than 800hp of t34/85, also its 215 armor is lower than the 234 armor of okw p4 (and ost vet 2 p4 too).

Durability:
T-34/85 vs Easy8

HP
800 HP vs 720 HP both can take 5 shots from tanks, slight advantage to T-34/85 is shrecks are involved.

Armor
160/80 vs 215/95 advantage goes to Easy8 that bounce shot even from Stugs/JPs.

I would say Easy8 is more durable but will settle for equal durability.

OKW PzIV vs Easy8

640 HP vs 720 HP both clear advantage to Easy8 being able to take an extra shot.

Armor
234/80 vs 215/95 slight advantage to PzIV (although with penetration values of allied its armor hardy makes a difference)

I would say Easy8 is more durable but will settle for equal durability.

Ofcourse easy8 has something better than them, its more/as expensive, right?

Wrong.Pls check your stats both Easy8 and OKW PzIV cost 380/140 the T-34/85 cost 380/130.

Since Easy8 comes with a 0.75 accuracy on the move, smoke and crew I would say that is more cost efficient than both the other 2.

My original point was that easy8 is at the same power level as t34/85 and okw p4, just because it has better gun in exchange for durability, mobility and reload doesnt make it "premium" tank over these two. It also has worse anti infantry performance than t34/85 and okw p4 so there is a lot of things its worse at than these two. And now we come back to original point, how would easy8 be broken in combination with calliope? I just dont see that when every other faction can have far more powerful combination.

It is my opinion that commanders should not give superior units in different areas like indirect fire (calliope) and armor (Easy8). Especially since Ostheer will probably have to relay on paks/ shrecks to counter Easy8s and those can be countered by caliope.

In addition in order for more commanders to viable the power level of commander should be about equal and commander with both calliope and Easy8 would make both Tactical support and Rifle companies obsolete.

Conscripts are mostly fine it the power level of other infatry that has gone thru the roof.

Maybe you should end your common practice of reading every single word separately and then over analyzing them in vacuum and learn to read a sentence to grasp the context of all these single words bunched up in a line?

Dear katitof PLS stop your silly campaign of trying to prove me wrong. Filling the forum with pointless, failed attempts to prove me wrong is completely non constructive and its guess it becoming increasingly tiring to everyone reading these post.

Even you compare the Easy8 to the T-34/85 it as at least as durable. It can take the same number of shots and has more armor.

You know people didnt use easy8 in months when they say it would be too strong with calliope (LOL). If okw p4 with stuka and t34/85 with katyusha are ok then how can easy8, tank with less hp than t34 and less armor than p4, be too strong with anything? Tiger with pwerfer, comet with mattress, is2 with katyusha, kingtiger with stuka are all ok but a fricking EASY8 IS TOO STRONG? Please at least play ONE game with this tank before speaking out.

Check your stats they are simply wrong.

Easy8 has more armor and HP than both T-34/76 and of PzIV and thus it more durable. It also has a superior gun.