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Thread: Soviet - Airbourne feedback24 Mar 2019, 23:19 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2019, 22:28 PMKatitof The numbers are 4,5 DPS increase at close range and 2 DPS increase at long range. These are the numbers. This is why I have said vippers % values are manipulative - they are not wrong, but they most certainly do not tell full story. In theory, boost of 0,01 DPS is also a DPS increase that would "prove me wrong", but my argument is -NOT- proven wrong at all, my argument is that increase for the cost is laughably low and numbers only -CONFIRM- that. Take literally any other weapon upgrade, check HOW MUCH ACTUAL DPS THEY ADD and then come back here. If weapon upgrade should be % increase, then LMG42 deserves a massive nerf to the level of Brens or even DP-28s. If weapon upgrade should increase DPS by at least 6 to 8 DPS(the weakest weapon up until now costing 45 muni, DP-28), then SVTs are quite underpowered here. If weapon upgrade that function as sherable, therefore between team sharing is intended, then weapon upgrade that LOWERS DPS of squads is as underpowered as it gets. Numbers, actual DPS numbers only support me. Your number hardly tell the full story. This is your opinion so do not present as a fact. The is no rule that say the weapons upgrades should increase the DPS by 6-8. And you stats are actually wrong a single DP increase the far DPS of Guard squad by 4.9 not 6-8, while reduce the DPS bellow range 7 or while moving. Let me remind you that according to your prediction, Penal buff on 24 June patch would cause no troubles and yet it was proven to be utterly broken. So forgive me but I do not to take you opinion predictions. In: Lobby
Thread: Soviet - Airbourne feedback24 Mar 2019, 19:13 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2019, 19:10 PMjagd wölfe Even more broken is that's the case. Why are they scared of just saying they want to give cons stv and cut this Bull*# lmao Add a direct upgrade and be done with it. Replacing the PPsh upgrade with SVT upgrade might actually work, but beign able to get 3 ppsh and 3 SVT is not a good idea... This mechanic of dropping weapon should be avoid unless a system of different weapon performance in different units is implemented. In: Lobby
Thread: Soviet - Airbourne feedback24 Mar 2019, 19:08 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2019, 19:03 PMjagd wölfe CE have a 20% and 15% accuracy bonus An SVT fired from vet 3 combat engineers has a mid range accuracy that is only 0.2 less than VET 3 penals, and that's for the cheapest unit in game that happens to carry 2 rifles of those and a flamethrower on top of that. It will be absolutely broken. SVT give 3 SVT riflers so you can have: RE x3SVT +1 flamer +1 M1 carbine at vet 3 or RE x3SVT +rifle grenade+1 M1 carbine at vet 3 or Sapper 2 vickers K+3 SVT Or Sapper 1 Flamer +3 SVT+ Bren or C.E. Flamer +3 SVT or Commando 1 bren+3SVT+1 sten and so on... In: Lobby
Thread: Soviet - Airbourne feedback24 Mar 2019, 18:02 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2019, 17:33 PMdistrofio ... Edit: @vipper i counted 5 svts and 1 mosin. The mosin is harder to see but you can idetify it by the nozzle and the cleaning stick You are correct. The SVT is superior to Conscripts, CE, R.E. Ro.E and the many SMG and work great with flamers since the squad will A move to good a distance. Imo the ability is bound to create problems with engineer type units spam. On the other hand for many units the ability will be a down grade. Unless relic decided to create a single solution for weapon that can be picked up (either other weapon for each squad or modifiers) the abilities should not be part of the game. If the aim is to give SVT to conscripts/CE simply give them an SVT upgrade. (Actually it would be a better option than the current 3ppsh especially since conscripts can with implementation get 3SVT+3PPsh getting Assault Guards DPS.) In: Lobby
Thread: Soviet - Airbourne feedback24 Mar 2019, 16:35 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2019, 15:43 PMKatitof ... Cons have 1 weapon slot, SVTs are supposed to take 1 weapon slot. I was not able to give them more then 1 box yesterday evening, there was no update since. ... Yes Cons have 1 weapon snot and I never claimed otherwise. Now count the number of SVT this conscript squad has: https://www.coh2.org/file/17762/svt.jpg Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2019, 15:43 PMKatitof Also, it took some time but I have found the ULTIMATE way to use SVT upgrade! Rain it all over the place vs ost opponent! If grens will pick it, it will SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THEIR DPS AT ALL RANGES AND block them from using LMG42! There are some flaws in that thoery The SVT has better DPS at range 6, while the difference in DPS is not that significant. The SVt has better PDS on the move Grenadier should should be able to have both and LMG or G43s. Pios can pick them and pio/flamer combo is actually strong... In: Lobby
Thread: Panzer grenadier G43 24 Mar 2019, 16:26 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2019, 15:54 PMjagd wölfe If the graph is correct, g43 are a downgrade at anything short of VERY long range. the G43 is better on the move. Which is is weird since a Assault rifle should be better on the move than carbine... In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Soviet - Airbourne feedback24 Mar 2019, 16:03 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2019, 15:29 PMKatitof Oh, an extremely biased attempt at using % values that say absolutely nothing then to give actual numbers! Lets try that without accurate, but misleading %, shall we? What's stronger? 151% of 2 or 170% of 1? Larger increase to very low value is still much lower then smaller increase to much higher value. Lets not pretend the "upgrade" adds meaningful values, ok Vipper? I am not sure why you keep trying to prove others to be biased, since you yourself have admitted to be biased. Now calling % values as biased is the simply moronic, number are numbers and you can not twisted them. The buff a unit get as a pure number mean very little because it depends on what the original number of the unit is. Increasing the DPS of Ober by 2 might a have a small impact while increasing the DPS of conscripts by 2 might have a huge. In: Lobby
Thread: [POLL] Assault Rifles in COH24 Mar 2019, 15:23 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2019, 15:20 PMjagd wölfe Just checked, stats are all over the place. Apparently my notion of panzergrenadier stg was wrong because i assumed sturm stg were similar with less accuracy only. Sturm stg starts dps dropoff at 3 ms only. Yes VG ST do not follow the "assault rifle" profile and are much closer to G43s. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Soviet - Airbourne feedback24 Mar 2019, 15:22 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2019, 14:44 PMSkysTheLimit If the upgrade sucks this much they should make the SVTs a different profile from the penal versions. There's several different versions of STGs so it's nothing that hasn't been done before It it not bad, only some people claim it does: C.E. vs SVT weapon's DPS ratio: range: 0 x156% 10 x184% 20 x196% 30 x208% 35 x213% Conscripts vs SVT weapon's DPS ratio: 0 x163% 10 x170% 20 x160% 30 x161% 35 x170% For comparison reasons a g43 gives 0 x260% 10 x259% 20 x179% 30 x155% 35 x151% In addition when I tested the weapons I was able to give 6 SVT to conscripts. The mechanism has very little to exist. If the purpose is to give SVT to conscripts and CE then have that as upgrade. Else every unit that can pick them needs to checked and balanced like Sapper flamer/SVT, Sapper 2 Vickes K/SVT, Commandos 1-2 Vickers/SVTs, RE flamer SVTs, RE rifle grenades SVT, RE Bar SVT voalley fire...while for every unit that is downgrade their must a be a warning for player not to pick them up... In: Lobby
Thread: Panzer grenadier G43 24 Mar 2019, 14:09 PM try here: https://coh2db.com/stats/ In: COH2 Gameplay