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I'd prefer an "AT Guards" squad to them being purely a copy of the existing doctrinal guards. Button should be retained, though this is currently tied to the DP-28.
Guards have high power level and high AI, a stock AT should not have high AI. It should simply be designed to fight vehicles.
I still think Penals should just be moved to tier 0, have their AT package removed, and be given Veterancy and a "Mobilise Reserves" upgrade" to compensate.
Guards (Or some variation thereof) should be put in tier one. Their starting power changed to accommodate the fact they'd potentially be coming at minute one (Or being further gated behind also having tier 3/2). They provide a better AT platform than PTRS penals, due to Button, and it gives Soviet an infantry option to compete with Axis elites.
I'd still prefer Penals be redone into a true Conscript alternative, but this is a potential option if that isnt on the table.
Soviets do not need stock Guards.
If there is even the need for an AT squad, that should be separate "new" unit specifically designed as an AT unit with little AI.
So you are saying that you support further PTRS buffs?
I am saying that in your opinion (without having played any preview games I might add) Penal can not fight medium, the mod team on the hand think they can fight as good as other AT squads.
Since PTRS penal battalion are now designed as other AT squads and can counter mediums they should come in line with other AT squads and lose their AT snare and have reduced AI power.
Some patch notes that follow the band aid approach of Penals:
"Developer Comments: Due to the lack of anti-tank in the Special Rifle Command, we are giving Penal Battalions a more focused roll as a dedicated anti-infantry unit."
"Penals
The combination of the raw amount of bonuses Penal Battalion squads receive with the power of their flamer upgrade made the squad capable of winning nearly all engagements vs infantry, in almost any situation, creating very limited avenues for counterplay. To address this, we are removing some of the raw power of Penal battalions. At the same time, we are giving Penal Battalions access to some anti-tank utility to give Soviet T1 some tactical versatility, which it previously lacked."
"Penal Battalion
The PTRS upgrade for the Penal Battalion is being improved by giving the squad an additional rifle. The current upgrade lacks power against anything past the light vehicle phase, which means that an AT Penal squad scales poorly into the late game, posing minimal threat to tanks unless they could be satchelled. Accuracy of the Penal PTRS is also being increased to match their previous AI DPS when carrying 2 AT Rifles."
Since PTRS penal battalion are now designed as other AT squads and can counter mediums they should come in line with them and should at least lose their AT snare and have reduced AI power.
can't you take care of this in private messages? What are you trying to accomplish with the community here?
I can try to stop having to read again and again the "myths" like "grenadiers are cheapest mainline" that keep reappearing. The arguement actually holds little water.
I would rather address this "myth" in separate thread instead of having to reply to several user in several thread that keep repeating something that is simply misleading.