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Thread: Some Penal Idea6 Apr 2021, 08:44 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2021, 08:13 AMKatitof Existence of Airborne guards and the fact there was never a single person complaining about them proves you wrong. Same for LMG paras. Nope it does not prove anything, because you comparison is off mark. You are referring to CP 3, expensive, elite troops, with lower vet bonus than can not be mainline infantry. Move them to CP 0 and see what happens. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Some Penal Idea6 Apr 2021, 08:42 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2021, 08:29 AMZeroZeroNi Penal are more than fine. The problem remain T1 and not Penal. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Some Penal Idea6 Apr 2021, 08:07 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2021, 07:43 AMZeroZeroNi Are you really suggesting that an 3 man FG42 fall is some how weaker than 4 man LMG section at max range or weaker than a 4 man BAR rifle somehow??? I am not suggesting anything I am saying very clearly. 6 entities with concentrated DPS is bad design because they do not proportional lose DPS are they lose model. Even more so for Penal with "to the last man" ability Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2021, 07:43 AMZeroZeroNi The upgrade is 2cp now and Penals don't have snares either. I'm not sure why you'd even bring that up. And here is the difference. One can have an army of Penal, one can not have an army of Falls because the unit is not available before minute 1. Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2021, 07:43 AMZeroZeroNi I don't really see how they can be superior rifle men. They don't have nades, no snares high reinforce cost and that weapon is gonna be adjusted for their higher vet bonuses so I don't really see a problem. More EHP more DPS. Their reinforcement cost is not high. Finally the idea of squad that perform good at all range is bad because it reduces the effect of relative positioning and make squads that specialize in a certain range look pale by comparison. Penal are more than fine in cost efficiency, they simply can not carry T1 on their own. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Some Penal Idea6 Apr 2021, 07:05 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2021, 07:03 AMKatitof Have you got enlightenment or started using the unit finally, to not try to hard nerf it anymore? Penal are simply badly designed and buffing them does not help because the problem is T1 and not penals. As for what I do or do not do I suggest you start focusing on yourself instead and maybe there is chance you might improve. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Some Penal Idea6 Apr 2021, 06:58 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2021, 06:51 AMZeroZeroNi Again as i said the weapon it self need not be as strong. Just adjust the power for vet. Fall also share the exact same vet bonuses. And their FG42's out match most weapon other "concentrated dps". The FG42 are are stronger than Brens at max(this where the bren is the strongest) and stronger than the BAR at close(this is where the BAR is the strongest). And yet there is stronger stuff out there so I don't think this will be an issue. And that is why falls are 4 men and lose 25% of their DPS with each model droped. There are also doctrinal and CP2 have no snare and are not mainline infatry. Soviets do need superior riflemen as their mainline infatry. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback6 Apr 2021, 06:57 AM 120mm Mortar Suggestions: The only thing this moratr need is higher projectile speed, fix that and it will be fine. Delayed Fuse Rounds very powerful against OKW and will cause problems. The ability should not be available. If it stay it need to have much sorter range. 152mm Howitizer Strike Ability too cost efficient. Suggestions: Rebalance the ability to be inline with "Light Artillery Barrage" avoid combining it with reckon. Advanced Fortifications Suggestions: Airborne Guards Suggestions: HE grenade 6 PPsh and first strike bonus...another squad wipe machine... If you are going to keep the camo/first strike bonus replace HE grenade with DOT Instead lower CP 1 cost to 280 balance accordingly Replace smoke grenade with light smoke grenade providing RA bonuses. Armored Vehicle Detection Suggestions: Add to more commander currently available to 1 Assault Guards Suggestions: The unit is simply OP, it superior to Rangers once vetted while easier to spam and more cost efficient. CP should be at least 3 at this power level or simply redesign. B4-203mm Howitzer Suggestions: Hard cap number of entities it can kill Replace the AT ability with skill shot using AP round with target table extra damage vs Vehicles. Commissar Suggestions: Conscript Assault Package Suggestions: The unit is too cost efficient with mobilize. Replace with call-in unit CP 1 unit remove bolt action rifles Remove hit the dirt from the ability. Make it a separate ability (or merge is conscript repair or rapid conscription) Conscript Repair Package Suggestions: Fear Propaganda Suggestions: For the Motherland Suggestions: IL-2 Rocket Run Suggestions: IL-2 Sturmovik Strafing Run Suggestions: IS-2 Suggestions: KV-1 Heavy Tank Suggestions: M2HB Team Call-In Suggestions: Replace with USF ATG as call-in but with access to AP rounds. ML-20 152mm Suggestions: Partisans Suggestions: Make AI partisan an infiltration unit and AT partisan as unit build from HQ. It will help better balancing the unit when it comes to cost./vet bonus/abilities. Replace concussion trap with the ability to "scavenger" enemy sector gaining resources PMD-6 Light Anti-Tank Mines Suggestions: Tank hunter commander has not reason to access to bunker, replace with trenches if you need to add something PTRS Conscripts Suggestions: CP 1 is too low, at this point simply replace with call in unit Rapid Conscription Suggestions: lower build reinforcement bonus to 10% and make passive at CP2 Change the unit to unit that can merge but not reinforce with target size of 1, posibily even adding a small heal when merging Shock Troops Suggestions: replace smoke grenade with light smoke grenade Spy Network Suggestions: SVT Crates Suggestions: ability should not be able to transfer weapon or resources to allies. ZIS-6 Cargo Truck Suggestions: add vet bonus unit gain veterancy according to resources generated In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - OKW Feedback6 Apr 2021, 06:50 AM 105mm Artillery Barrage Suggestions: 280mm Rocket Barrage Suggestions: Increase penetration 70+, 60 can still deflect on static emplacements and the majority of arty abilities have much higher penetration Buildable 20mm Flak Emplacement Suggestions: Allow the unit to gain experience Command Panther Suggestions: Lower price of flares, they are available to Soviet mortars and infatry earlier and much cheaper. Command Tiger Suggestions: Either balance the unit a Command Tank with lower stat or scrap the Command aspect and balance a heavy tank Early Warning Flare Traps Suggestions: allow ability to be used on enemy/neutral sectors Emergency Repairs Suggestions: For the Fatherland Suggestions: Heavy Fortification and Field Defenses Suggestions: Incendiary Munitions for Le.IG Suggestions: merge the ability with flame throwers increase CD decrease scatter the ability can easily completely miss reduce the friendly damage can cause crew to die if it hit shot blockers Jagdtiger Suggestions: Lower XP King Tiger Suggestions: Le.FH 105mm Suggestions: Replace the vet 5 ability with something actually useful. Like the ability slowly respawn crew or slowly heal Opel Blitz Suggestions: Allow the unit to transport medical kit and uncrewed support weapons Pak43 Suggestions: Panzerfusiliers Suggestions: Reduce cost and lower number of G43 to 2. Or rebalance the unit as a support unit. Radio Silence Suggestions: Sturm Offizier Suggestions: lower XP value of the unit add vet bonus the lower mu for abilities Sturmpioneer Flamethrower Suggestions: Replace with Flamer engineer unit with stats similar to VG , that can upgrade with flamer. Unit can upgrade with minesweeper build sandbag and normal wire. Low Pop so that can offer support to the over burden SP Sturmtiger Suggestions: Change the Squad wipe potential to utility Increase hull mg damage lower damage of grenades possibly change them to always on hard cap model kill add critical to vehicles/infantries (injured gunner/driver..) Allow world piercing Valiant Assault Suggestions: Move Falls reinforcement to this ability, (lock behind tech if necessary) Zeroing Artillery Suggestions: as a primarily defensive ability lower power and cost In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Some Penal Idea6 Apr 2021, 06:44 AM 6 entities squad with high accuracy bonuses are bad candidates for weapon with concentrate DPS. In addition Penal already have good DPS at ranges and good DPS on move. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Ostheer Feedback6 Apr 2021, 06:42 AM 251 Mobile Observation Post Suggestions: Replace unit with call in or built from T2 to unable spiking T2 Lower flare to match infatry mortar flare to 30-35 Assault and Hold Suggestions: move to another commander, commander already offer superior infatry Assault Officer Suggestions: Reduce reinforcement time Add 1-2 ST44 with vet Consider adding different types of officers: Panzer officer, infatry officer, artillery officer, Luft officer Breakthrough Suggestions: Add to more commanders Command Panzer IV Suggestions: Lower XP value Lower Pop to 10 Make custom made vet bonuses Either change the gun to be similar to Stug-E and have AI/AT or increase penetration of gun so the unit can fight enemy light tanks Concrete Bunker Suggestions: Add damage reduction/durability or "brace" Create a new type as FRP that can force and air drop medical kits. Counter Attack Tactics Suggestions: Forward Resupply Station Suggestions: set building HP to set amount 75-100% Make aura a timed ability Add the FRP bunker reduce enginner to 4 lower price to 20 FU Grenadier Jeager Light Infantry Package Suggestions: Replace the ability with a new squad similar to Command JLI 5 entities 2 G43 static camo interrogation. Hulldown Suggestions: Rename defensive position Casemate now cloak and rotate faster JU-87 Suppression Loiter Suggestions: Luftwaffe Field Officer Suggestions: Replace MP-40 with K98 since abilities have longer range Add a MP-44 with vet Mortar Halftrack Incendiary Suggestions: increase CD of Incendiary barrage reduce scatter Osttruppen Suggestions: Target size to 1 now have target size penalty 1.25 when in cover as squad ability Scarp LMG With BP 3 can upgrade so weapon work as if in cover and all bonus/penalties in cover are removed Panzer Grenadier Support Package Suggestions: make it for free and not an upgrade Panzer Tactician Suggestions: Puma Suggestions: Relief Infantry Suggestions: build time/reinforcement bonus reduce 10% now passive at CP 2 Ability give a Support unit that can merge but not reinforce Sector Artillery Suggestions: Defensive abilities should become cheaper available earlier and be less potent Now targets a Single sector artillery now reduced to light artillery barrage level CP and Price down Stormtroopers Suggestions: Now start a 5 men MP-40 DPs reduces for Lower total DPS Strategic Bombing Run Suggestions: Commander already has incendiary bombs StuG E Suggestions: Replace vet 1 ability that has 40 damage...allow unit to switch to hollow charge rounds for direct fire Stuka Incendiary Bombing Run Suggestions: Still seem weaker the incendiary barrage possibly increase DOT Area Tiger Suggestions: Change vet 1 ability with a range 60 AT skill shot. Tiger Ace Suggestions: Add an ability similar to artillery propaganda or completely redesign so that the unit scales, start as stug and can be refited to better vehicles until it reaches Tiger. Vehicle Crew Repair Suggestions: In: COH2 Balance
Thread: A corrected model for infantry DPS6 Apr 2021, 06:35 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2021, 06:33 AMKlement Pikhtura Sorry for stupid question, but does all this mean that in order to calculate the correct dps you need to add 0.125 sec to every delay stat during shooting, except reload time, if it is bigger then 0? e.g. fire_aim_time + wind_up + wind_down + cooldown +0.125*4 The game uses ticks of 0.125 time. For the game the only times that exist are 0.125, 0.25, 0.375, 0.5 In: COH2 Gameplay