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Thread: T34/85 or KV1 in Soviet Industry Commander? 7 Oct 2019, 20:36 PM Some solid ideas. I like the idea of a spearhead mode for the KV2, would definitely be interesting and probably see more use than the inspire ability. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T34/85 or KV1 in Soviet Industry Commander? 7 Oct 2019, 12:27 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 23:46 PMthedarkarmadillo so, ive been using the kv-2 the last day or 2 in team games and despite my always saying it should have a barrage.... the siege mode is REALLY good... the extra range it amazing when used with attack ground... i think its actually in a good spot, at least for team games edit something however i didnt use even once was the inspire ability. it doesnt really fit with its lock down mode, seems sorta off imo. its an alright tank in its normal mobile mode, but not really a "with infantry" kind of tank as the only times i moved it up was to engage mgs outside its lock down range that was hindering my infantry already. yeah the inspire ability would be better replaced with a stat boost for the unit itself. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T34/85 or KV1 in Soviet Industry Commander? 6 Oct 2019, 16:11 PM While we're on the Sov Industry commander what would people think of changing the KV2's stationary ability to a scott/su76 style barrage? At the moment there is little reason to use its ability as it just make it too vulnerable. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T34/85 or KV1 in Soviet Industry Commander? 5 Oct 2019, 13:52 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2019, 10:33 AMStug life the kv 1 fits better with early war theme than t 34 85, and it could use the mini at gun instead of self repairs tbh either is a better fit than the kv8. Mini at gun could be ok. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T34/85 or KV1 in Soviet Industry Commander? 5 Oct 2019, 10:30 AM Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2019, 10:09 AMOsinyagov If you exchange selfrepair on cons repair and leave repstations as it is, you still will have two repairs abilities. Imo this one will be needless nerf for the doctrine without any profits. One costs munitions the other is a passive ability granted to cons for free. Just trying to mix it up and 'balance' out the boost of giving the commander the T34/85 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T34/85 or KV1 in Soviet Industry Commander? 5 Oct 2019, 09:59 AM Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2019, 00:27 AMthedarkarmadillo How many repair stations are you building?!? In a 3v3/4v4 I like to build enough for all my teammates so by the end it can add up to a fair amount. Swap fuel call in for recon or something else that supports the team. Swap repair vehicle for conscript repair. swap kv8 for T34/85. Most suitable build that comes to mind atm. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T34/85 or KV1 in Soviet Industry Commander? 4 Oct 2019, 22:53 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2019, 16:58 PMWingZero Adding T-34/85 would make this doctrine too OP, especially in team games. You have fuel drops and pretty competent 85s plus heavy KVs a bit much. Fuel drops are irrelevant unless you plan to not upgrade penals, throw grenades, build repair stations or use self repair etc...or as soon as the first bit off aa comes out. I don't see how the T34/85 (which would be the best choice as the KV1 is still a bit poor imo) would make the commander OP. Considering there are commanders with elite infantry (guards motor) or a better heavy tank (armoured assault). The only thing this commander really has is repair stations and the KV2. The kv8 is available in much better doctrines but its alright. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T34/85 or KV1 in Soviet Industry Commander? 4 Oct 2019, 16:49 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2019, 16:34 PMcomm_ash Maybe its time to bring back the red banner T34/85s or the Green T34/76 reserves from the cancelled commander? I could definitely see industry being the commander of choice for a revamp. I would a tank version of Ostruppen. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T34/85 or KV1 in Soviet Industry Commander? 4 Oct 2019, 16:33 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2019, 16:12 PMT.R. Stormjäger Agreed, if doctrinal units get nerfed and the core army buffed, it would improve the faction. if the the T34/76's performance was tenable for anything above 1v1 then it would be a different matter. if this was regarding Ost/OKW/USF or even UKF then it wouldn't matter as they all have solid non-doctrinal tanks. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T34/85 or KV1 in Soviet Industry Commander? 4 Oct 2019, 16:30 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2019, 16:11 PMVipper Let me explain this another way, T-34/76 got a massive buff to hmg DPS and currently has a similar DPS to the PZIV 3 hmg that actually PzIV has to pay for. By accident the same buff went to T-34/76 which was designed to be more of an AT tank. Then people started arguing that T-34/85 is better the KV-1 which in return got significant buffs. And now people claim that these unit should be available to even more commanders. That is the essence of powercreep. One should actually make both the T-34/85 and Kv-1 less cost efficient since both units are far superior to the PzIV H. If that result to lower Soviet win rates than the faction should be buffed and not the doctrinal units. I believe people argued for the KV1 to be buffed on the grounds of it being utterly shit before XD Anyway, this thread was to see if people think the commander should be changed. T38/85 OP discussion can go in it's own thread, if you believe it to be the case-I don't but there we go. In: COH2 Balance