Both the Elefant and Jadgtiger have really weak rear armor. The Jadgtiger also has a stun mechanic.
Elefants range is 70
Elefants Armor is 400
Elefants HP is 1040
Elefants Damage is 320
JagdTigers is 85
JagdTigers Armor is 550
JagdTigers HP is 1280
JagdTiger Damage is 320
Both tanks have huge range so flanking them like stugs is impossible and if you ever think of diving then get ready to lose everything to at guns, panzershreacks and yes you guessed it the elefant/jagdtiger
the only way you can flank BOTH vehicles is if the Axis player forgets it or leaves it alone should he support it with team weapons or AT you cant in any way counter it
AT handhelds arent really good either so using infantry to deal with them is a flatout failure,and if you expect the allied player to use infantry to flank the Jagdtiger or the elefant you STILL fail to counter them causenot only its impossible to flank them with infantry but caise they have TOO MUCH HP
they have too high armor and HP and a gun AND range
HOW canyou FLANK such a tank with infantry and make sure you damage it?
both vehicles need a rework or their counteres buffed or else its GG for allies