Thread: Rangers30 Oct 2015, 21:03 PM
Paratroopers are better. And cheaper.
+1
paratroops are for real better with same tompsons
Maybe we will cry about it and relic will buf them
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Hello, and welcome to the inaugural "holy fuck this commander is gay" thread.
First off, I'd like to congratulate our new Rangers on their graduation from Ms. Petunia's finishing school. Please remember not to kill any of the enemy, as this might affect their morale. You're doing very well in that regard so far. Also, excellent job in dying as expediently as possible, as this will also affect the enemy's morale, for the better.
I'd also like to remind the smoke barrage not to have too big of a radius, as that might actually be useful.
On the other side of the equation, I'd like to compliment the sturmpioneers on their close-quarters lethality, and encourage them to perhaps acquire another close-quarters weapon to further enhance their deadliness. Oh wait.
Also, I feel that I would be remiss in not encouraging the OKW to make use of fire. You're on the right track, my friends, but don't be stingy; there's nothing wrong with more flames ! Why not equip the raketenwerfer with a side-mounted flamethrower ? Or perhaps load the panzerschwerer cannon with incendiary shells ? I also suggest considering an ability, available at 2 CP, allowing you to send care packages to the Allies. However, upon opening them, the Allied troops do not find socks and candy, but rather, MORE FLAMES ! Please give it some serious thought.
rangers need cost reduce !!! paratroops are 6 man with abilities +same thompsons they perform better than rangers and cost less paratroops >rangers
m26 is really cool but it need a buff hp armor
but the new commander is really fun!!! thanks relic finally heavy armor |
I like how you mention nothing of the Elephant, King Tiger, Jadg Tiger and Tiger Ace. Which by the way, Axis completely dominates the armor field when either of these heavy tanks hit the field. It doesn't matter if you make 2-3 Jacksons, Su-85's or whatever. An Elephant, KT or JT will deny any sort of armor on the field.
USF has only 1 heavy tank. By the time you can field it, someone's gonna already have either one of those heavy tanks on the field.
But you can sit there and continue your straw man argument.
+1
m26 need a buf i dont care higher its cost and make it stronger !!!. |
Why do Allies have to pay for sub par grenades compared to Axis? Some would say that Axis pay for them as well, but this is a nonsensical argument, because you were already going to
USF, Soviets, and British have to pay manpower that could be used to field more men or build caches and then use fuel which delays tech all the while as Master race OKW Volksgrenadier and Ostheer Grenadier blobs grenade you at will with built in grenade tech.
Solution: Just remove the tech requirement for all factions for grenades, it would help USF early game and encourage better play from Axis if they knew a conscript squad could immediately AT grenade their kubelwagon or a riflemen squad could immediately smoke and advance towards a lone, camping MG42 in the immediate early game.
There really isn't a good reason to lock grenades behind tech, especially since Allied grenades aren't even significantly better.
+1 leave this thet they dont pay for granades there granades are op !!!! |
1. Speak fucking English.
2. Learn to spell.
3. Don't make this into an Allied vs Axis OP imbalance thread.
4. Show me your playercard and ranks before spamming long posts like you know much better.
5. Lastly I have no fucking clue what you're trying to say.
its my player card
my steam ID 76561198038199828 i can add u at steam if u dont belive ...
1. you know i am right so you dont have any thing to tell back
2.all i told are facts ...
3.and i was talking about the avrage player not proes like you.you probebly mostly play vs jova so ye vs jova anything is under power
4.oo and sorry for bad english i will try to get better just for you baby
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noob l2p. You are already crying here.
SU76 SU85 Jackson all eat Panther for breakfast due to superior range, post patch penetration buff and SU85 has self spot.
Firefly can take down 75% of panther health with its alpha damage with rockets.
AT Guns are all reliable counter to panther.
Then you have Soviet Super heavy ISU IS2, Comet, Pershing coming soon.
And it's a tank that cost 175 fuel. (plus extra tech+building fuel cost)
Even bazookas PTRS can damage it to a certain extent, given panther lacks anti inf power
i am not the best player i am the avrage meaby usf are really good with great micro this faction is the best but i am not a machin i do mistakes but with germans u need less micro so u do less mistakes cos of the strong german armore good LMG better atgs thet penetrate more and u dont need to click to penetrate
when i play 1 v 1 as allice some times i find players thet didnt even got first pristige on germans side but when i play wermaht or okw i mostly find max LVL players why ? [i am same ranks with usf and wermaht
cos its ezer to play germans thets why when i paly allice i find newer players then when i play germans and i find mostly max LVLS
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noob l2p. You are already crying here.
SU76 SU85 Jackson all eat Panther for breakfast due to superior range, post patch penetration buff and SU85 has self spot.
Firefly can take down 75% of panther health with its alpha damage with rockets.
AT Guns are all reliable counter to panther.
Then you have Soviet Super heavy ISU IS2, Comet, Pershing coming soon.
And it's a tank that cost 175 fuel. (plus extra tech+building fuel cost)
Even bazookas PTRS can damage it to a certain extent, given panther lacks anti inf power
so u wanna say usf AT guns penetrat panters ? or i need to wasst tones of ammo on my atgs or just watch round bouns mighty german armore
and man i just told u thet jakson will conter him but in witch cost ? i need a jakson + atgs and they wont help me vs ur inf wille ur panter can kill inf and tanks
in witch dream in pro games panter stands on one place so u hit him with rockets from firefly ?
fire fly again this tank is good vs ather tanks wille ur tank is good vs tanks +inf
fire fly shoot sow slow ...
and lol zooks u are funny give me shreks then u will cry ...
panter 1 v 1 with a commet = panter wins [commet costs more ]
why u even bring the commet in panter survie with half or less hp vs a commet
if u know thet there are no mines in the place u can owne every medium tank with panter 1v1 jakson ,commet
shurman m10 ...
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Relic didnt offers u a balance Job yet? What a Shane tbh
well if u are sarcastic and u think i am wrong fix me what did i told wrong ? |
IMO Ostheer panther is current underwhelming or overpriced.
(Strictly Ostheer panther, NOT OKW version)
or generally Ostheer T4 compared to T3.
1) Panther
it cost 175 fuel itself and 45 extra for tech, if you rush it ignoring T3
as a dedicated inf tank, which it is not supposed to be, Brummbar should do the job
as a General medium tank, it doesn't kill infantry reliably, only armed with that pintle MG.
For that we have much cheaper Panzer IV and Call in Tiger that do MUCH better (especially after Tiger gun pen buff)
as a dedicated tank destroyer, the gun fires too damn slow, penetration is meh for that RoF. Range is only underwhelming 50. Damage is also same as others: 160. In short, DPS is too low.
For that we also have spammable StuG G, with much better RoF and same Range.For the same fuel cost, you can nearly make 3 StuGs.
Prime example: Churchill. StuG does the job much better.
as frontline unit, the armor is meh now that we have SU76, self spotting SU85, Jackson, Firefly.
Suggestion: Panther needs a cost decrease, or slight buff on its gun.
-- Either increase the range to 60 as other allied TD,
-- or increase RoF so it doesn't look like shit in front of StuG and SU,
-- or do 200 damage like Jackson, since it fires so slowly already.
Right now there isn't much reason to get panther when you can spam StuG, or mix with Panzer IV/Ostwind, or Tiger.
2) Brummbar
it cost 160 fuel itself and 45 extra for tech, if you rush it ignoring T3
as a dedicated inf tank, it SUCKS.
The DPS is simply too unstable. Sometimes it hits and kills half the squad, sometimes it doesn't hit anything at all, this is somewhat dependent on the Geometry and where the projectile lands.
Seems like the pintle MG kills even more than that 150mm gun.
Right now Panzerwerfer is much more reliably than Brummbar, assuming you have no access to T3
as a General medium tank, it lacks mobility.
as a dedicated tank destroyer, which isn't supposed to be. (even though in game description, Relic writes, "150mm gun can smash through everything, even tanks")
as frontline unit, the armor is only 260. now that we have SU76, self spotting SU85, Jackson, Firefly.
The chance of not getting penetrated is negligible.
Suggestion: Brummbar needs its gun performance fixed, or slight buff on its weapon or survivability.
-- Fix the projectile travel velocity like ISU or any other tank so it hits the target.
-- Either increase the range of its gun + slight penetration buff,
-- or Increase RoF
-- or give it health/armor buff
Again there isn't much reason to get Brummbar when you can get Ostwind as dedicated AI
or general medium Panzer IV that can fight tanks, or Tiger.
3) Panzerwerfer: Good Spot
for exmple i am a usf player you get a panter how i conter him ?
thets right jakson + ATGS never sow thet jakson or ATGS kill infentry better then a panter with an mg
in one tank u get anti tank and anti inf not a good one but still as a usf player i need to wast much more to conter u and try to ceep up with ur army cos my jakson and ATGS wont hold the lins with ur inf
so i need a shurman but u eat this for brekfest so what i do ? cry in the corner :9
sorry for bad english
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IMO Ostheer panther is current underwhelming or overpriced.
(Strictly Ostheer panther, NOT OKW version)
or generally Ostheer T4 compared to T3.
1) Panther
it cost 175 fuel itself and 45 extra for tech, if you rush it ignoring T3
as a dedicated inf tank, which it is not supposed to be, Brummbar should do the job
as a General medium tank, it doesn't kill infantry reliably, only armed with that pintle MG.
For that we have much cheaper Panzer IV and Call in Tiger that do MUCH better (especially after Tiger gun pen buff)
as a dedicated tank destroyer, the gun fires too damn slow, penetration is meh for that RoF. Range is only underwhelming 50. Damage is also same as others: 160. In short, DPS is too low.
For that we also have spammable StuG G, with much better RoF and same Range.For the same fuel cost, you can nearly make 3 StuGs.
Prime example: Churchill. StuG does the job much better.
as frontline unit, the armor is meh now that we have SU76, self spotting SU85, Jackson, Firefly.
Suggestion: Panther needs a cost decrease, or slight buff on its gun.
-- Either increase the range to 60 as other allied TD,
-- or increase RoF so it doesn't look like shit in front of StuG and SU,
-- or do 200 damage like Jackson, since it fires so slowly already.
Right now there isn't much reason to get panther when you can spam StuG, or mix with Panzer IV/Ostwind, or Tiger.
2) Brummbar
it cost 160 fuel itself and 45 extra for tech, if you rush it ignoring T3
as a dedicated inf tank, it SUCKS.
The DPS is simply too unstable. Sometimes it hits and kills half the squad, sometimes it doesn't hit anything at all, this is somewhat dependent on the Geometry and where the projectile lands.
Seems like the pintle MG kills even more than that 150mm gun.
Right now Panzerwerfer is much more reliably than Brummbar, assuming you have no access to T3
as a General medium tank, it lacks mobility.
as a dedicated tank destroyer, which isn't supposed to be. (even though in game description, Relic writes, "150mm gun can smash through everything, even tanks")
as frontline unit, the armor is only 260. now that we have SU76, self spotting SU85, Jackson, Firefly.
The chance of not getting penetrated is negligible.
Suggestion: Brummbar needs its gun performance fixed, or slight buff on its weapon or survivability.
-- Fix the projectile travel velocity like ISU or any other tank so it hits the target.
-- Either increase the range of its gun + slight penetration buff,
-- or Increase RoF
-- or give it health/armor buff
Again there isn't much reason to get Brummbar when you can get Ostwind as dedicated AI
or general medium Panzer IV that can fight tanks, or Tiger.
3) Panzerwerfer: Good Spot
panter are OP over power !!!!! panter eats USF tanks for brekfest and all medium sovit tanks too
even the mighty brits cant stand the panter with there armore the COMET 1 v 1 thet is even higher by cost per unit cant win 1 v 1 a panter |