At least we can agree on this. CoH2 deserves factions that actually fought in WW2 and were skilled; Italy lost almost every battle even when they outnumbered their opposition, so they shouldn't be in CoH2. If Relic does decide to make an Italian faction, i'm going to start a petition demanding that they cancel it.
Yes, it is true. Italy mostly used German weapons, vehicles and etc. While they did have their own weapons like the Caracno, most of the Italian Army's equipment was supplied by the Germans. In fact, the only reason Italy lasted as long as it did was because of German men, women and German equipment.
No, it is true. Masses of Italian troops either surrendered or just ran from battle, because they were poorly trained, had incompetent officers and outdated equipment and tactics. The only time Italian soldiers didn't run from a battle was during their invasion of the British Somaliland, and even then the British only lost 50 troops compared to Italy's 500+.
Anyways, I don't care what the Greeks did since we're talking about the Italian Army. History showed that Italians couldn't fight which perplexes me since Italians are the supposed descendants of the Roman Empire, who had the greatest military in the world.
They weren't famous for their Navy because most of their ships were old and they had very few modern ships(No aircraft carriers as well). Even Japan had a much better Navy than the Italians, which is surprising because Italy had much more resources and financial support than the Japanese.
Sorry but you're wrong about german weapons, the italian Carcano rifles were designed in 1891 but they had been modernized in 1938, the '38 version was far more better than the original because of the greater calibre. The germans used italian weapons because of german production in late 1944 and 1945 had been weakened. The only moment that italians used german tanks was for the Blackshirts Armored Division in 1943 but never fought because was organized in May 1943 and dissolved in July 1943 after facist regime downfall.
Their ships old ... you're completely wrong, you must know that they weren't old, Hitler was very impressed when he saw the Italian Royal Navy in Naples, and i have never said that Italian Navy was better than Japanese one.
Italians aren't descendant of romans simply because in the italian peninsula we're not all roman people descendants, the italian population is very mixed my friend.
For the navy we have: (i'm talking about great ships)
- 4 battleships before 1940 + 3 battleships after 1940 (7 battleships + 1 in production)
- 22 cruisers before 1940 + 3 cruisers after 1940 (25 cruisers + 9 in production)
- 69 destroyers before 1940 + 13 destroyers after 1940 (82 destroyers + 3 in production)
- 113 submarines before 1940 + 49 after 1940 (162 submarines)
- there were 2 aircraft carries in production but never completed before 1943
PS: do the petitions you want, we're in a free world and you can choose
And about the retreat and not willing to fight, the Alpine Corp sent in Soviet Union was composed of 57.000 soldiers, after the battle of the Don they were only 11.000 came back, the rest killed or missing
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