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Brit commanders not OP ? Croc ? Commandos ? Avre ? Nuke arty that destoys entire armies ?

The new OKW commander is definitely stronger than some of the current OKW commanders it might need some tweaking but at least it's not gonna screw over the entire game for several months like it used to be when new commanders were released. If you want relic to release balanced commanders there's always a risk that they're slightly too strong/weak but I would much rather take that risk instead of having a new tiger ace.

All you mentioned are going to be toned down.

Stronger then what? Like all OKW commanders are stronger then this new one. Maybe Special Operation commander is weaker ... well, not weaker but lets say "on pair", and this commander sucks ass. Here is some fast facts why this commander suck:

1) Insanely muni dependent.
2) Volks already have flame nades to deal with garrisoned units. "its not very cost effective" is questionable, because using this new commander force me to use more then 1 sturmpio AND i'm left without ANY elite inf tanks. Not to mention that "its not cost effective" to pick commander just to counter this maxim in building and then play without any useful stuff ... but hay you countered maxim.
3) I have to rely ONLY on obersoldaten later on, since I wont have effective AI inf (and we saw how much time hetzer need to kill someone). So again I have to spend muni even on obersoldaten (who sucks btw)
4) Hetzer comes too late AND cost hell of a lot fuel AND Pop-cap.
5) Brad said that overall stumpios performance with flame is the same as without flame. And they are even weaker with flames against targets out of cover. And if they are weaker\the same then whats the point? Sturmpios are useless AI inf past first 5 mins.
6) Recoup losses ... well, not like OKW is the least MP starved faction, but it also cost you 80 muni.
7) Salvage commander already provide Jaegers, arty which destroying howitzers, AI tank (which is cheaper AND more effective then hetzer) AND gives you tough salvage.
8) HEAT shells got fixed and now they are finally useful AND this commander have Sturmtiger - heavy blob counter.
9) Rocket barrage ... mkay, you could save 100 fuel, have a Hetzer and then spend 200 muni per Stuka zu Fuss barrage, with SAME sound, with FLARES, with SAME damage. Fair trade.

So again how this commander is useful sorry? This commander cover only one area - OMG ENEMY IN BUILDING BURN THEM. But there is 10001 way to deal with them using correct OKW. Its not about UP\OP commanders, its about commanders which simply dont worth picking, since there is hell of a lot other commanders which can be effective in different situations, not on 1 out of 10 games.

You've changed the forum, but are equally dense as on the official one

I could go on here about different armies, different unit relations and accessibility, but I'd be talking to a wall anyway.

You're trying to compare apples to oranges without even having a clue about any of them.

Yeah sure, running away as always. You could say what ever you want and think what ever you want, but fact if still fact - USF has best offensive mainline inf in the game. OKW have the shittiest AI inf in the game.

OKW in general need Obersoldaten or any elite inf MUCH more then USF. Its not about "hurr durr" OKW have stock elite like inf, how you are trying to twist your argument. Its the fact that OKW has really pure inf AI past first 5 mins of the game.

But who cares, I think your arguments wont go deeper then "OKW has stock King Tiger".

Btw: your smart words about "different armies, different unit relations" is the smart way to say "yeah, its fine that 400MP+60 ammo unit, perform like pure crap until vet 2, but USF rangers for 400+90 is UP because its different army and its doc unit."

On topic:

USF don't need their own shocktroops, they have rifles as the main inf and rangers are never were supposed to be main force for USF. So yeah, you got expensive, supporting flanking unit. Thats it. I know that many ppl wanted them to be another commandos or shocktoops but sadly no.

Good thing that obersoldaten are doctrinal unit that overlaps with another doctrinal unit that have more utility and can be replaced by stock main line infantry anyway.

Oh wait! Someone decided to completely ignore these things, because 'selective facts' based argument is best and most valid argument

Since when "doctrinal" means "best and the most powerful"? Or probably you have to pay for obersoldaten more because their cost "include fact that they are non-doc unit". Or you think that its fine for unit to be overpriced crap because its stock unit and only doc units should be cost effective?

If unit if underperforming its underperforming and if its doctrinal or not its not an argument what so ever.

Only units from ambient building cost more then unit itself because of their deployment. Thats it.

I found this mod really nice. Finaly Allies can somehow counter tigers and Panther spam. Now allies have at least small chance to win late game.

Nice1. Hope relic would balance game like you.

But you really overbuffed MG42.

The flamers are for Volks !?? Why ? Wouldnt it be more logical if the flamer was for the SturmPio ?

Who charges infantry with volksgrenadier ? Unless you want to throw incendiary nades.

Volks are effective at long range, Sturmpio are effective at close range, it's not that hard Relic...

Seriously, they should change that, make flamers avaible for Sturmpioneer instead.

I would rather see new squad, like "urban assault panzergrens". Whole commander basically make almost zero sense.
1) Flameweapons were changed, now they are supportive weapon, not assault weapon, like it was before.
2) If this commander meant to "spam volks with flames + shreck" then why da hell you need flame hetzer? (btw, I checked game UI and it seems like it has ONLY flame attack, not like KV with switching gun mode.)
3) Volks got flamenades which are perfect to deny cover and counter enemy in buildings, this commander would be beast like 1 month ago, but with flamenades its not necessary.

Recoup losses seems to give back only some of the MP and it seems like you will get MP ONLY if you lost your squad, not model.

So in general, this commander looks fine ... just like Close the Pocket one. On paper cool, in game hardly usefull.