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3,4,5 or even 10 as much I can get in all team modes love the tank. |
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And again Axis wunderwaffe cant be nerfed, because Axis are what? On the other hand if the Tiger or KingTiger deals with 3 shermans it is historically accurate, because Tiger Aces bla bla bla, but If the Jackson hard counters all Osther T3, (historically it should) LOL bad DESIGN, NOT FAIR NERF LOL!!!!ononone |
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Well American are hamburgers, Russian are commies, and Nazis are long gone ideal soldiers. Legends and myths own World war II games in those legends Nazis soldiers and equipment is AWESOME, and everybody whants to be awesome. |
well, i saw one game where lenny beat stephennjf with nkvd, which is still the best game i have ever seen.but i'll assume you are right.
what i want to say is that [i bet] most ppl who come this forum who complain about stale meta have never dedicated themselves to unorthodox strategies as much as players like lenny has to really know what they are talking about when they say 'oh there is only one or two strat that works etc.' they might be right, but it is all guesswork.
and i also think there is a severe case of confusing between getting naturally bored of a game because you played thousands of hours and a game boring you due to abyssal gameplay in threads like this.
True. Some people should make a break. I am doing so thus still have fun playing although i lose most of the time. |
I am a random scrub too and went back to COH1, in spite of not played COH1 for almost 1.5 year, still getting US and Wehr into top 30s within a week, and because of timezone, I just keep getting nubs, even top 20s PE can't do a shit against bulletproof and lost interest. It is still much better than the COH2 pudding we have now.
Wehr is still quite interesting though, I can do almost whatever I want. VVSMG, FHQ defence/terror, 3 Volks 2 MG, 5 PIo T2 Grens, 3 Pio Volksspam Blitznade, 4 Pio MGspam into StuH, etc.
Comparing to COH2, Ostheer is crippled like fuck, you are forced to do the best unit combination, hoping your Grens doesn't get instant squad wipe by "insert any stupid AOE". OKW is super stupid, it is just spamming useless Volks (a lot inferior to COH1 Volks), get some Obers or Falls, hope nothing squad wiping you and win by vet and super tank, MEH.
Those stupid squad spacing AI is pissing me off, a hell lot. 
Maybe I just GTFO and go back playing Pokemon. 
Maybe. I don't know a lot of people here complain. Coh2.org is the first site unoffical site that i follow daily and look at the forums daily. I got involved so much into the whole game balance discussion that I started to worry for the game more then anything else. But in the end it is just a game IF relic stops suporting COh2, I will just download a mod or maybe Kappapatch and continue playing jut like i did with Dawn of War2 |
Well, anytime you go about telling community members to leave you are part of the problem. Maybe you should take some accountability for your actions and also reflect on how treating members of the community might effect the outcome of the game.
Relic deserves a bit of bashing in some ways. Yes, some players take it too far but relic also promised a lot of things and didn't deliver. If you are new to the community I'm sorry you don't understand. There's history to this game and there are some past issues and to ignore them is ignorant in a sense.
Lastly, a lot of vcoh players stick around because they care about the franchise. Most of us want the game to succeed so we don't watch our favorite franchise die. It's not that hard to comprehend. We give input because these are the things that drew us to COH in the first place. For some reason they decided to take away a lot of these core game elements and dumb it down. This is disappointing and to be honest probably isn't that hard to change. Personally, I don't see the game lasting much longer because it doesn't have a good mix of arcade and realism, like the first game did. It doesn't feel like a true sequel. I see it dying, the community dissipating, and when people look back they'll go "why didn't the community help to improve the game?". Well, then we'll find posts like yours and see some people, like you, were too complacent with a mediocre game and at the same time being negative towards other players with absolutely 0 empathy. So yes, you are part of the problem. Help the game don't make it stagnate. And in no way shape or form is telling players to leave going to help, you know that, I know that, we all know that so quit playing the victim.
Well i never seen you on this forum helping resolve a balance issue and i can't see your player card so i don't know if you even play Coh 2. Maybe you are that kind of person that wants to point fingers at people responsible for the down fall of your favourite game, and here i was a random guy that told Porygon to go back to COH 1. I don't want to argue, because you will never prove me right, and will never prove you wrong. Last thing if one statement that was used on this forum couple of times is the GRAND REASON for this community down fall i stay at my other statement to many Fanatics of the franchise. The only people that can fix this game are the ones at Relic. The community can help but only relic can change the game if they decide to. |
You know... a lot of coh1 players want the game to succeed. I don't play coh2 anymore and still play coh1 but I would like to see this game worth playing.
People like you tend to forget this community, this website, the majority of players making the complaints all have stuck around the COH franchise / community for years. Hell, I mean SNF is hosted by old vcoh casters, TNF stuck around to cast a decent number of coh2 games and within good reason stopped and inverse gave it a good whack at some strat casts. There's many more community member's who just left due to the franchise becoming dull.
I started playing shortly after its release (early 2007 I think) and worked my way up to a top 100 1v1 player in coh automatch and sunk countless hours into the game / community / discussion when I could. I reserve my right to be a bit disappointed when relic's previous community managers talked about the game not being pay to win (there is a nice thread on gamereplays.org about this), having some sort of competitive focus, and just overall being a polished game that learned from the OF expansions mistakes (poorly designed additional armies).
So.... look where we are now, the game is super casual, it doesn't know what it wants to be or who its audience is.
And every time one of you guys say "go back to coh1..." well, I mean you're basically targeting a large number of the community. Whether someone speaks up or not a LOT of people enjoyed that game, loved it. Even to this day it's a pinnacle or RTS gaming, it's still one of the highest ranked RTS games of all time (if not THE highest). Maybe relic just had too big of shoes to fill under the circumstances of the THQ bankruptcy but it's certainly disappointing to be promised a swing-set and getting a sandbox if you get my drift. Not that either one is better than the other but the original promise, the painted picture was something much more than what we got. That and the loss of the competitive community and a bunch of kids like you on this site who have one liner poorly thought out sentences with no constructive criticism for improvement. Yea... you make this community suck ass sometimes.
Attack me i am the rotten core of this community. Good job. My point is people tend to bash this game for everything and blame relic all day long. I am the one that likes this game and maybe it has some problems with balance but i am still playing it. Last thing the problem with COH Franchise is the fact that the community is a little to fanatic about it. |
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COH1 is much more interesting to watch and play, just because of this.
Then go back to COH 1 |
This is sadly true for many players. It has has to be or why else would a player A-move a six squad blob around the map simply annihilating any thing he encounters. Many features of Coh set the game apart from the rest of the rst genre and it what so many people love about the game. But the direction that western fronts and to a lesser degree Coh2 has taken, has reduced that differentiation dramatically. Sure it looks like Coh, and feels like Coh but under closer inspection the real substance of the game is gone, replaced with gameplay from games designed years ago.
Pehaps they encouraged it through Western Front design because so many old school Coh1 pro's bashed Coh2(and rightly so to some extent) and they realize they had lost that part of the community and decided to allow the game to become more mainstream by lowering the skill ceiling. They still need to make money, right.
The thing is, i feel no motivation to become better at this game, not the way i did with Coh1. I started like every other player in multiplayer. I lost hard at first but wanted to improve and play like those above me. I spent numerous hours watching top Coh1 casters and tried to replicate what they could do and over time rose through the ranks. Each rank i achieved was a feeling of satisfaction and onward i would go practicing, refining builds, learning niche things about the game.
But this game, i barely give a shit any more. I often just quit because of frustration with many features throughout the game. Rank is a distant thought most games. I am just looking for a decent opponent who doesn't abuse some feature just to win.
I live in hope that Relic is addressing the issue and something will happen with the next patch otherwise i think my participation in Coh2 will be limited to watch casts.
A Balance patch can fix some issues but people will find new things to abuse and to cheese with and nothing can be done to stop people from doing so. Second thing stop with the COH1 nostalgia its like Heroes of might and magic 3, no matter what they do 3 is the best !!!!oneoneonone. |
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