Profile of JohnnyB

ON TOPIC: allies and axis are almost equal when the allied players' choose the correct commanders that compliment each other.

but axis have and easier time cus they don't need commanders the have great synergy. great commanders increase the already powerfull axis stock units. axis compliment eachother better.

You are so detached from reality that I'm realy tempted to believe your card it's a fake. Allied - and especially soviets - are currently steamrolling everything from 2v2 and above. Soviets are steamrolling even in 1v1. I'm smiling thinking about Relic's claim about inflated OKW players' ELO. Know this: OKW players inflated ELO it's nothig compared to what soviet players' ELO will be now. Everyone said they want balance, not a switch in OPness of factions. If balance means "now is my turn" like I saw in your several (retarded) comments, claiming that "okw now should suffer because their former OPness", then indeed we have that kind of "balance" now. Just lol to you and to all "good" players who play coh like Starcraft2 not being able to tell the difference.

PROTIP : Relic listens absolutely 0 to anything that is said is said on these forums. And if they do, they take very little insight from it. And thats good.


They have a private alpha made out of some high level players + some okay players and they rely on their own system that pulls stats out of a game that shows how certain faction, units perform at different matchups, times in the game and size of the game.


In the end, balance generally is just a perspective. Balance has never been a huge problem in coh 2 because there are alot of units and generally there is always something you can do to counter an OP unit. I'd honestly say that unless you are top 50 or whatever arbitrary number, balance issues simply do not exist because you can always counter an "OP unit" by simply playing better. Hell, that is true for pretty much anyone, even top players. Now of course OP units need to get nerfed, but you cannot instantly say that one or another unit is OP, because it is impossible to say how the metagame will develop.


A clear example is how the metagame of OKW developed. Back in release of WFA, everyone thought OKW was horribly UP, completely useless. Then some nerfs to allied units (kv-8 and AA HT + m1919) happened. Everyone still thought that OKW was UP. Then volksgrenadier damage on the move + obersoldaten bonus againts retreatingunits got removed. Everyone thought OKW was even more UP. Then somewhere along the way, people figured out that what you need to do is spam out a ridiciluos amount of infantry and just overwhelm your allies opponent with ridiciluos human waves of infantry. And suddenly, everyone is complaining about OKW blobs being OP. And they obviously were. And so was born the OKW spam meta which continues to this day


Another fairly good example was soviets during last years march deployment patch. Back then, the small arms rework made grens LMG 42 and G43 ridiciluosly overpowered. Even vannila grens would easily beat vanilla conscripts, with the grenadiers standing in yellow and conscripts in green.
Maxims would literally got oneshotted by riflenades, and most soviet tanks were pretty bad as well. But Cataclaw (top player at that time) did figure out a strat as soviets. What he did was spam massive amounts of M3s since they were so cheap and get gaurds after that. Of course, the strat was very risky and you needed to micro way more than your opponent, but it worked.



Also, the reason why alot of people think OKW is now UP is because relic said that the ELO of OKW players was inflated. So what that means is they were winning againts people of higher skill level than them. So in time it should even out.

I never said that solutions cannot be found in any situation even if lack of balance. I could give you an example too, in early COh2 where Ostheer was so bad but using festung armor you could resist and win so I agree with you that tactics will adapt even in this situation. I just stated that the balance is off and you didn't convince me I'm wrong. That ELO argument is incorect. If I remember correctly, the patch adjusted the OKW players ELO already, did it not?

Totally agree, peoples idea of balance when they only play team games are always exaggerated because they go up against multiple units of the same type. 1v1 should be the foundation balance is built upon, after 1v1 is balanced the rest of the gamemodes would follow.

Agreed. That is why Relic failed to properly balance OKW - again. Because they listened to crying babies that wanted balance for 4v4 where Axis was the most powerfull. Well now it's quite the opposite, and not only in 3v3 and 4v4. Anyway it seems that balance for many people translates in this sentence: "I can do whatever I chose with allied and I still win, so the game is balanced and fun".

I'm so disapointed with Relic balance that I'm afraid to say more (in favor of Axis' factions) because I fear they will overnerf / overbuff and mess up factions again. At least like this some of the allied exclusive whiners will finaly shut up with their borring tears. Or maybe is an ELO question and I have to reach place 5000 in the ladder where I'm supposed to be with OKW starting from my current 1700. . Oh well...

l2p issues

easiest way to separate the players that need to learn how to play from the ones that can play. See how prepare and react to sov call-in spammers.

It is so easy to punish a sov player that waits for call-ins. If u cant find out how, I suggest u get better at the game before claiming that faction X is op.

A faction is only OP when u don't know to play around their weaknesses and ur faction's strengths.

I see you didn't even read what I wrote. Well, not surprised, tbh.

OKw is underperforming terribly. The KT melts even vs t35/85 and marked target. Is2 is crazy strong. AMERICAN infantry well... They are American infantry. But the big difference is between Okw vs soviets

Speaking from a 1v1 and 2v2 perspective. Not concerned about bigger games

Well, sadly, that's true. And it is sad, not because I like the faction, but because currently balance is quite off. I have to "proudly" declare that I won no game lately with OKW in 2v2s while playing with random mates or with 2 different friends on AT no matter what we did and what approach we used, no matter if we faced double soviets, double USF or soviet+usf. That is becoming a concern, again, not because it's okw (if I like just winning, I could switch factions, did that and things were ok), but because balance.

There are some issues that I observed:

1. No building will resist anymore on the field, you have to build everything in base. I mean everything. Meh. That is mainly because the offensive power of OKW was nearly halved, which allows your opponents to take the initiative and storm you hard, push you untill you lose your hq trucks. This was more difficult in the past because OKW had a more powerfull offensive capacity. OKW is recently supposed to fight while being constantly cornered. That will only ensure defeat in most cases.
2. There are a few doctrines, among which I will quote Tank hunters (soviets) and Armor Company(USF) that prove nearly unbeatable against okw. Just one example: did you see how easy is for AT air strike from tank hunters to just wipe your deployed truck? Much to easy. A simple receipt: put an su 85 facing the deployed truck from a far distance. Concentrate vision on that direction so you can see the truck. Call the plane. Truck is bye bye, nothing can stop the plane. Armor doctrine: having some buldozers on the field will make okw infantry simply disappear. Of course, you will still be able to use vehicles. Um... what vehicles?
3. I strongly believe that there were lots of ninja changes in the last patch because if the changes are just the ones stated, than the game should be verry close to balance right now, which is not. Unfortunately I don't have that amount of time to look for them myself. I prefere to use my own (few) free time playing, but it's obvious there were alot more changes than stated.

Tbh I didn't properly test ostheer yet but I kinda feel that you have better chance of survival with it. Which is another concern, because OKW it's supposed to hold better and have more firepower.

As a conclusion, OKW looks now like a politician promise: nice and shiny, apparently powerful. When played, it disappoints. Something it's not right about it. L2P or no L2P issue, I see there are more people who think the way I do.