I'll care about Kyle's mental health when he starts caring about mine or was surprising me with game 1 vs barton supposed to make me feel happy & appreciated |
No it's doublespeak. Relic will more likely than not drop support for the game. I don't see how their grand esport experiment which took them like over a year to start after being announced is profitable. They barely get 1k viewers if that anymore.
The community is tiny even considering the size of the playerbase which is decently large thanks to all the Steam sales.
Relic should do a few more patches to fix OKW, bring other factions into line, and then leave the *#%*%$ game alone. Yes, it's a poorly optimized input-lag fest with bad pathfinding but apparently that's better than anything they've been able to do to improve the game in the last 2 years.
They should redo their essence engine or license unity when they release DOW III because after having made a good engine in vCOH, they somehow made it awful in COH2.
The problem is you can't throw money at an esports scene and expect it to grow. You need the base game to improve and give people incentive to keep playing. The game has been, more or less, the same for the past 6 months and there is no word on the next patch. It took relic years to give USF a mortar and then another month to "hot"fix it.
The cynic in me wants to say the warpaint tourny is just a glorified commercial for skins |
1. Wada needs to get some thicker skin. They poor guy was just about in tears because Barton exposed him for not being a top tier player. There was big time harassment too, I get that, but I know a large part of the butthurt was due to the fact that he was losing every time. If Barton was trolling and losing half of the time, I think we would have a different story here.
It has nothing to do with Barton beating me. My main "butthurt" is due to being fed up with coh2 & relic, barton harassing one of the few people trying to make coh2 great, and relic not doing anything about it thus forcing me to compile evidence and make a thread about it AND RELIC STILL HASNT EVEN TALKED ABOUT THIS ISSUE. This is the main reason I'm not playing well because I'm getting to the point where I don't get any enjoyment out of CoH2 and reaching my breaking point. It would be sooooooo much easier if I didn't give a shit about the future of coh2 & the esports scene, as many of our top tier players have this detached mindset.
Also the whole "ZOMG SHADOWWADA SUX" type of comments are silly. At the end of the day, no one can argue I'm in the top 20 CoH2 players and top 3 NA players. |
I appreciate your post as you address the more serious issue of cyberbullying. I would like to clarify the main three stances with this issue as I believe no one is disagreeing with you or myself.
1. Napito's position - Cyberbullying is bad and an extremely serious crime. Barton should be punished due to the severity of the crime.
2. Shadowwada's position - Prominent members of our community shouldn't harass other prominent members since it reflects poorly on our esports scene & community. Barton should be banned so people know relic & the coh2 community doesn't support such harassment. (I also agree it is a bad crime so there should be punishment; I viewed it more under the lens of a community/esports issue rather than just seeing it as a cyberbullying crime)
3. The "Thicker Skin/Don't Feed The Trolls" position - shadowwada should not let it get to him because he is actively feeding Barton. Shadowwada should have ignored Barton.
I agree one should have thicker skin but I also believe harassers should be punished. These positions are not mutually exclusive. To suggest these are mutually exclusive is to victim blame; "shadowwada deserved the harassment since he fed the trolls and he was soft skinned" This is akin to blaming a rape victim for getting too drunk or walking alone in a bad neighborhood. While it is good advice to avoid bad neighborhoods and avoid getting black out drunk, it doesn't condone the rapist's rape. As Napito said, Barton's actions are cyberbullying and should be punished accordingly.
As I've said, it reflects poorly on our community. If we want our esports scene to grow (by extension supporting the game growing), we must punish Barton. People won't join our community if they know harassment is par for the course. Why would anyone get into this scene when you have better alternatives such as League of Legends; Riot hired Jeffery "Lyte" Lin to specifically curb the playerbase's toxic behavior as well as Riot banning specific toxic players such as major twitch streamer Tyler1. This is one of the many reasons why League of Legends is a better game and a bigger esport than CoH2. Relic needs to learn from Riot's example.
Lastly, I find Relic's lack of transparency disheartening as Relic has been completely silent, despite letting Barton play. The Barton harassment situation has been an issue for over the past month as Barton harassed my stream, one of the few daily coh2 streams. If we wish our esports scene to grow, Relic needs to make their decisions transparent. By letting Barton play in warpaint & automatch, they condone Barton's actions so they have an obligation to provide an explanation since many prominent players, streamers, and community members are against Barton's actions. This issue should have been addressed long before I had to bring it to light and even now, after providing documented evidence of in-game & twitch harassment and showing the community's support for shadowwada, Relic has failed to act and they've fail to communicate to us. |
uploading for *pridepost ftfy |
On a scale of 1 to China how drunk are you tonight Paula?
As long as it isn't addictive, I want what he is having KappaClaus
WOW HFHFHFHFHFHFHFHFHFHFHFHFHFHFHFHFHFHFHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE |
Really? I could've sworn that re-cloak speed was quicker under heavy cover than under light cover as a "feature" they introduced when they released this game.
they changed that stuff a while back. |
I know how email to Relic will look like, he will send his youtube vid "evidence" where like half of it is fake, and Relic will think it's true, they won't even give me a chance to explain/defend myself
I've given you chances. I unban you in my chat and you say something like "I like stalking you" or "I'm getting my 5 yr old brother to beat you up" If you were truly remorseful, you would have stopped a long time ago. As I said before, I wanted to end this peacefully but you squandered all those chances. Don't try to play the victim now.
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JAPANESE FACTION FUCKING CONFIRMED |
WiFiDi, I made this thread so all the evidence is in one place and we as a community can weigh in on this issue. Relic will obviously see this post so if they see the community is in agreement that Barton & Price should be banned, it will allow them to easily make the decision, knowing the community supports it. Relic should ban them and forward all relevant information to twitch so they can ban the twitch spam accounts. |