Ipkai if you lose your truck you're going to be behind in tech not matter what. This is pretty serious. Even if the OKW fields raketens to counter armour that is their only form of AT apart from mines as they can't upgrade shreks until the truck is set up.
On a side note we have the exact same amount of posts. Spooky.
Cheese and starcraft 2, really, how many SC 2 games have you played? Don't be ridiculous and i recommend you watch some good south Korean streams on SC 2
Panzershreck is no different on volks or pgrens.
Bazooka is exactly the same on paratroopers, rifles and RETs.
Not really a single reason why PTRS should be any different here.
many people in COH2.org are Allies，they never play Alex at all.
the main thing for the game balance now is the player of Alex will have to play even harder than Allies but still cannot beat them, even though they are same level players.
also, it looks like people only focus on how you talks about the truck pushing, have to say it is quite annoying for many players.
But anyway, its nice to see you stand out and give those advice.
Alex? you mean Axis?
During the last patch automatch was like 70% axis and 30% allies, all the gardning time. so you can't just say there are more players who play allies without playing axis
Yeah, I don't understand where KurtWilde's animosity came from, and trying to actually provide a reasoned argument including multiple perspectives was just exhausting my time.
I am like bruce banner, i am always pissed
But seriously there was / is no animosity and i admire the fact that you tried to argue back logically.
However while I admit that Cons PTRS package should not have the same stats as guards, I dont think stopping a cons blob is that hard, for example compared to pre-patch OKW Volks blob
I'm sorry you find structured arguments so offensive as to incite you to defamation of an essentially anonymous member of a computer game community.
daspolus and lemon negate your "argument", regarding "high level play", but in case you have a change of heart and decide that the other tens of thousands of people that play this game aren't meaningless to you, let me point out that in a divided community, this a thread which, within weeks has garnered 21,613 views.
let that sink in for a moment.
21,613 views, yes, those aren't unique, but that is a lot of conversation, a lot of people wondering, "what is going on with the PTRS" which inferring by my logic, says there's an issue here.
that issue, for which i will repeat myself for the final time. is not balance.
it's not an issue of balance.
it's a question of how PTRS's operate within the engine, specifically regarding weapons teams, this is exacerbated when large amounts of infantry, IE, tank hunter cons, have access to the PTRS, and something that we suspect was overlooked when relic implemented these changes.
allow that to be my final riposte to you, and may i never have the misfortune of crossing your path again.
I was talking about guards. I dont think PTRS in the hands of Cons should have the same stats as when guards yield them. I don't think everyone here agrees that Guards PTRS is OP, the opinion is divided and i personally don't think that destroying weapons is quite common as you insist though.
I watch Imperial Dane's casts, follow Romeo, Siberian, Redwings, Hans on twitch. Didnt see this
If you came to "read and learn" either I wasn't clear enough in the post you replied to, or you must've read this thread from the window of a moving car; because, you've missed the point that I and others are making, which I will summarize below:
"Not op, broken is the correct word."(ofield) the biggest issue is outlined by, elchino7: "The problem is the PTRS destroying crewed weapons, not it's DPS vs infantry or vehicles." and elaborated on by Alexzandvar:
"the PTRS is incapable of missing the gun due to it's size. The change made it so it would never ever miss vehicles, and now it never misses... weapons teams. "
LEMON notices how this really becomes an issue, not with GUARDS, but with CONS (as noted in the first damned line in the first post of this god forsaken thread:
the problem with cons blob is that theres always 8 or so cons running around all over the map, and each of them has 2 ptrs' that have the stats meant for elite infantry.
RMMLz, adds upon the context of the broader state of the game:
AT weapons sniping infantry are bad design, no matter if it's Panzerschreck or PTRS. Although, PTRS should have AI capabilities when it's used by Guards or partizans. But a change like this on you main line infantry is bad. Take a look at OKW. Why we are frustrated by SchreckBlob? Because you turn you AI core unit into laser guided tank hunters. Any drastic change to mainline infantry has the potential to break the game, because they are spammable and cheap.
Before I close, once more I rely on the words of elchino7:
Gonna say it again:
-PTRS destroying crewed support weapons is not fine.
-Everything else is fine.
Finally, allow me to repeat myself a third time:
Examine the broader context of this. The PTRS shouldn't be doing what it's doing atm. This isn't intended.
I was compelled to reply to you because i couldn't stand your whining, you make little girls look like Rambos.
moving on, while i am nowhere near the top 100, I watch high level streams everyday. I haven't seen any top level player use and win with this OP PTRS blob.
As dbmb said you can't determine balance by noobs A moving noobs
also i suggest you read what people have said in this thread, those who tried to explain what PTRS are.
I use Guards almost after a year, not because they are awesome but because they are now at least decent and lets me experiment with my build a bit. Which is a good thing
Yes I did. And I think that game effectively illustrated the issues regarding PTRS's and weapons teams as well as their great strength, which IMO is an unintended consequence of buffing guards creating a situation which is contrary to the spirit of the game.
What's your opinion? Or did you just come to watch the show?
the show? your whining is the show? I came to read and learn and I also read Cpl S's guide, which you clearly have not read. I don't think guards PTRS are OP, its just decent again. I am using guards again almost after a year. In a few weeks people would have figured how to deal with them. there is no need to whine about it because they are not OP. I think a million people before me told you what a PTRs is, oui?
You are wrong. guards with PTRS/lmg beats Ober with lmg head on. That should not be like that and it is fair enough considering their price difference, time they arrive, and teching Obers require and guards not.
guards are doctrinal and NO they dont beat Ober with lmg head on. NEIN
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