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This is a funny thread. Most of these people should be bringing their problems to the strategy desk instead of whining about them on the balance forums. I still haven't seen any good arguments why axis are easier to play than allies specifically the USFs and soviets.

Auto deployable smoke, race car blitz in reverse crutch for your bad micro

stun shot on paks and a majority of axis tanks

super heavy tanks period

including ones that can shoot halfway across the map an STILL have that much armor and hp with that kind of range they just sit there and enjoy the shooting gallery

Flak hq which basically stops harasment and locks down the map for majority of the game and allows you to no have to micro your leigs or probably worry about anyone attack your fwd retreat point (USF,Soviet)

The fact that they in general have a LOT less tanks and vehicles but have the same effect or better with them just controlling one

riflenades that are hard to see and have very little time to react to increasing allied micro

one of the HUGEST is mgs that actually fucking pin infantry alloing you to lock down sectors and not have to worry about the as much, not just one or two squads like allies everything in the arc almost instantly that must be nice in retro spect allies mgs that just dont pin and you have to micro the shit out of what the mg is firing at to even get them to pin a couple squads

The fact almost all allied armor is weak to any form of axis at (constantly on alert trying to stay away from shrek blobs or faust) , most allied weapons bounce in the fronts (if you have shitty vehicle micro dont worry it will probably bounce anyway)

grens and vet 5 infantry that can stand on the cap and just ignore about everything other than LM or calliope or use cover just A-move or jump in a house youll prolly win

Cheap over the top abilities like stuka loiter that is broken as shit denies a huge area to any armor play makes any allied player have to get out of that giant fucking circle (microing every thing out of area, AA units dont really work) quick as shit before they get engine dmged and are auto finished off by the stuka by a click of a button

Stuka dive bomb that is over the top auto erases everything in the area keeps allied players constantly microing out of area they think its going to land moving all team weapons but there prolly fucked anyway the aoe is so large but you can never be for sure it is and if your USF your just fucked you have time to retreat infantry first but your major and ambulance are fucked for sure all with a click of a button

insta plant mines

built in AA that cost you nothing

maybe in 3v3s or 4v4s

2v2s are completely allied biased right now.

No, just wrong in fact axis dont even have to have tanks and can still win thanks to infantry with shreks that only increase there AI and are anti everything that no allied mg can suppress. Vet5 infantry that can stand on cap and just ignore basically everything and your usually always down in vps as allies thanks to flak truck and insta suppress mgs that for some reason allied mgs are not allowed to have suppression which makes them not very use full. This however is soon to change with shreks not on volks and reducing shrek dmg to infantry and hopefully a cost increase to okw so when I actually take out there kt or jagdt they can't afford to just instantly replace it.

IMO they also have a lot of crutch abilities racecar blitz in reverse, auto smoke, riflegreandes that you can't always be babysitting your infantry to dodge at all times and negate mgs (also soon to change hopefully), stun lock on almost all there tanks. Enormous armor and health pools on mega TD's that makes no fuckin sense they have that much range making a well played allied flank treachorous more times than not. In general better tanks overall that you would think you should not need so many get out of jail free cards for but they do anyway. Ill give you usf vehicle crews and band aid repair but they would probably be screwed with out it given there weak armor.


Many 2v2 maps like say road to kharkov, river crossing it only takes 3 mgs to lock down the 3 dota path ways. Then add flak truck locking down half the map if say you have ost and opkw 2v2. Or maybe misk pocket where late game they just sit and elephant or jagdtiger mid and it becomes a fuckin axis shooting gallery where it is near impossible to flank and usually there smart enough to mine the two small alternate routes on the side.

Anyway in my micro list (2v2)
USF - because of armor play, and crucial unit abilities that must be used to win fights or the game.
OST - support weapon micro and how crucial they are to them being sucessfull
SOV - again a lot of infantry abilities and gimmicks that they need to win.
UKF - emplacements can do a lot for you but you still need good crommie, dingo car micro and such at times
OKW - a brain dead child could play them 3-4 volks A-move them upgrade with shreks, schwerer locks down one vp or half the map in some cases, 100000 hit point early fwd retreat point, build 2 liegs they do there thing, build KT that is anti everything or another super tank like command panther that escapes death and has like 9 lives and makes everything you have and your teamate 10 times better.

I get excited when I get matched up in a 2v2 with no OKW. I don't have to worry about kubel spam, which is no fun for me, volks shrek blob negating my armor play which is also no fun for me, early luchs which is hard to counter with any allied faction which is also no fun for me, or having to spend half the game waiting for tanks and overwhelming forces to take out there schwerer HQ which is also not fun for me or having to deal with there king tiger that frequently one shots my infantry and that is never fun for me or there jagdtiger that can shoot any of my tanks from a mile away across two thirds of the map that is not fun for me either.

And in the larger sense, it's a slap in the face to the tradition of COH, which was originally about maneuvering, flanking, and cunning micro and tactics. All you can do is bomb it, or waste a lot of manpower assaulting it.

It lowers the skill cap of the game by its very existence.

It makes skilled players mad because their skill means nothing since any noob can throw up a Bofors and it will take only slightly less time for a top 10 player to get rid of it then another noob.

@theguyiquoted Yep exactly the same for okw flak truck and there fwd retreat truck that has a million hit points (sarcasm) but seriously. Just as cancerous but some how its ok because its tied to teching, bad design. Laugh at people who can't deal with bofors.


@whatothersposted You can't compare the brits and ost situation then ignore usf problems dealing with okw flak truck. Every faction has there achilles heals some more then others to certain factions. I disagree with it anyway pak gun, mortar ht, reg mortar, etc its not like they are useless after you kill the bofors you were probably going to build them anyways. I realize some are doctrinal but thats why you choose doctrines. if you kill the bofors your going to hurt the brit player really bad because his whole sim city is about to crash. Its not really that cheap to build either it cost fuel and mp to unlock and fuel and mp to build.

The only problem I have is how much health or whatever stats OST sniper has that makes them so durable. The other day I flanked an ost sniper do not think it was vetted maybe vet 1 at most with a full rifle squad. He immediately retreated and the sniper had to run right BESIDE my full rifle squad and he still survived. That is just dumb he should of been punished for being caught off guard by my rifles but more times than not the damn thing gets away with a sliver of health. Rifles also do shit dmg from far away so its hard to attack the sniper at range and it should be but come on the fucker had to retreat and run right by my full hp rifle squad and lived so they had like i dunno 5 - 10 seconds of time of all 5 firing at the sniper some shots at close range.

m20 counter is a huge risk with luchs and 222 coming out as fast as they do m20 field time is very limited and has a very small window to kill the sniper. I'm not even sure if you trade the m20 being killed for a sniper kill if that is even worth it maybe if they have two and you get both with it. I'd rather try to hold out for stuart and just let sniper bleed me.

UKF sniper is way too fragile I think or maybe it is in a good spot and more like how all snipers should be not with crazy body armor as he can be killed rather quickly if you let volks or grens fire at him.

I think the combination of how strong ost sniper is and 222 rush the way it has been buffed is a bit much.