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The AP round has like 220 penetration at close range (Panther has 300 armor) but at like mid range and long range its only like 20 or 30 better penetration than the Anti infantry round, which has a 4 second reload rather than a 6 second one

Edit: Im gonna edit in the penetration stats if i can find them in patch notes

pening at farther ranges would help, it dosent have super range or vision

Anyone feel like this tank is a bit lack luster? For one it micro taxes the hell out of you and I feel like the round change timer is way too long to be able to plausibly use it effectively. I do not mind the micro tax but if you consider the micro and timers it takes AND how un reliable and un effective it seems to be. I think the round change timer and micro is ok if the rounds actually did what they were suppose to. Im not a stat guy i know a lot of you are but something seems off with it, it missed all the time, feels buggy when it fires, produces little results when using AI rounds vs AI, AT vs At. Wtf is its place when it is not effective at either, id rather it cost more if it could do BOTH of those things better. It should be able to not like it has amazing armor hp speed or anything really. I mean ive had a few miracle moments with it but ive also had at guns kill snipers so. I mean why cannot it not be a risky tank to charge a panther against if it has the right rounds, right now its not just another pos sherman version that even 2 of them a panther easily bullys both that dosent work because its lack luster in both departments.

So how exactly does vet 4 let Volks outdps Riflemen?

Dont they just out survive them, usually comes down to VP battles, volks can put up with a lot of abuse from late game units, arty, rifles cant, they start having less and less time on the field, volks more. Its not like rifles drastically out dps them, they can stand there and ignore rifles for quite some time. They can still anyway just throw flame nade, make rifles move volks win.

I disagree. The Panther wins close up because it has extra health, not armour. The Jackson already penetrates it frontally no problem.

Tank Point Blank provides an option to vehicles that struggle to penetrate heavier armour. It's a pointless risk on units that can already penetrate from range.

The vehicle I'd be concerned about is the M10, and it's not like you can't adjust it if point blank makes it too strong.

Played a game yesterday and jackson money rounds were bouncing panther frontally, that makes sense dosent it.


Look you proved my point yourself vehicles that struggle to penetrate heavy armor, like allied mediums that have become useless, soviet sherman76, sherman ez8, mech sherman 76, comet, cromwell. Yes because im going to swarm you with m10s around your invisble at guns, shreks, snares, paks lmao that even if they did pen probably cannot take down the health pool of any axis tanks above p4 before they are destroyed, even if they do almost guaranteed they will not make it back out.

And all those vehicles have no problem penetrating from range do they when axis tanks can bounce jackson money rounds ok


EDIT AHH i see what your saying it would be a pointless risk for axis vehicles that have no problem penetrating paper allied vehicles from range. it ok that my tanks cant penetrate from range though and still struggle to pen axis tanks when they are in there face behind enemy lines and should not get any compensation for risk, well played flanks, and give them a use again.

I like the idea, but I would only apply it to LVs (Puma, Luchs, 222, T70, AEC, M5, etc.).

Applying it to every tank would result in this:


You'd basically end up with M36s rushing everything and basically ignoring armor due to their mobility. Right now, panthers, etc. can sort of hold their own against M36s because their armor still works at close range; this would remove that advantage, too.

wow you just described what the panther does every game now, and thats not what would happen because of snares, hp differences etc.