When was last time you have "took the initiative" using PGs?
When was last time you've seen any streamer do it?
I could really understand your argument, if PGs were meta unit, but they are not and were never in the past after beta. They always were just an optional squad and more people opted to skip them all together or go straight for shrecks.
How many ost players actually use PGs as AI squad? 1%? 2?
If you are arguing existence of the tool - sure, its better to have the option then not, just in case.
If you are arguing usefulness of/need for the tool - meta was always exclusively about gren spam + MG/mortar/sniper and not at any single time over last 5 years PGs were ever meta AI choice, so from meta point of view, AI PGs were never needed and were just a vanity/variety option.
What osttruppen offer, outside of resistance to sniper strats that base army lacks and needs?
Its not faust
Its not long range dps
Its not durability(grens are tougher in small arms firefights)
Its most certasinly not CQC DPS
So what do osttruppen bring to the table that ostheer so heavily lacks?
In case of mobile defense, panic puma is not something ost needs, its something that makes countering shock lights trivial, shreck PGs and teller mines were always capable of that.
Ost was never in soviet state of absolutely needing a commander to perform at any decent level, it was always about luxury choices.
sorry i can't care what someone who have thousands of trollposts have to say yet don't even play the game. If you can't even manage to get top 500 1v1 or 2v2 your opinions about balance is void. |
BINGO! You just described usf as a faction. Seems thats the direction we are heading in. Next will be okw with pfusiliers. But your point in the previous post was that ostheer is easy to exploit because they always have to play defensivly. That is not true if you look at ostheer dominance in previous patch.
Dominance? Every stream, every tournament game i have seen its always always OKW. Even the self proclaimed King of Wehrmacht Helpinghans is just playing OKW. |
Yeah lets forget that before the patch it was ostheer mobile def or osttruppen every game.
If an army uses just commander callin units that is a sign the army does not have the tools it needs to function. |
Do you axis fanboys deal exclusively with absolutes?
2 grens/3 osttruppen and 2 PGs very early or HMG42 and PGs very early would be pretty much IWIN combination, suppress anything, mow it with PGs, rinse and repeat.
PGs biggest problem lies with their usability and difficulty to approach targets frontally without cover(which they shouldn't do, they aren't shock troops), not stats and changing timing to earlier pretty much warrants nerfs to performance.
They also are -NOT- a squad that should open the fight, grens or other unit should and get behind the cover, then PGs should move in.
So basicly wehrmacht have zero infantry units to take the inititive, they always have to play defensivly (which the brits still does way better). That makes them easy to exploit by decent players and thats why everyone plays OKW. |
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Whatever nigo says im agreeing. |
It Is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE to progress as a rank 1100, I get placed vs rank 500 or 600 in every game.
I want to reach those ranks too but not by being crushed every game in a match that I have NO FUCKING CHANCE to win.
If this is the case then I fucking quit the game.
rank 500 players are not good, you should easily be able to improve enough to beat them within a few weeks. |
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Don't know why people like the P4 callin, its almost identical to the stock P4 and people are happy about this from possibly the last commander we will ever receive?
Please buff the stock Tiger AI or give it more health. |
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I think the upgrade package from infantry commander should be default for all pgrens no matter what commander. The speed bonus and extra defense makes them actually be able to get to good positions before losing a model. Everyone forgets that losing a pgren model is much worse than losing a grenadier model since grenadiers main dps is from the mg42 which will travel around in the squad if they have casualties. Pgrens lose 25% dps with 1 model loss. |
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If i can click a button for double AI killing power then where do i sign up? |
T3 auto repair is better, strum has repair bonus, OKW get smoke shell in ISG and OKW P4 simply dont need extra micro to be useful against tanks and infantry. Sorry, your argument is invalid and just support another fact that OKW has even more better stuffs than USF.
If you say clicking the HE button is micro then your argument is a joke. |
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