Rifle Flamers are the new Ober's. Although not as problematic on a one for one basis, the sheer amount that can be fielded over the course of the game are just as devastating as the old Ober's were. When you need vehicles to counter a mobile manpower unit, the game is in a bad state.
Relic now find themselves backed into a corner again, having released a premium content commander, when the faction was not ready for it.
Personally, I'd like to see flamer-rifles removed from the game, however, it is a premium content commander, so that is doubtful to happen... My idea for a solution to flamer critical mass (this includes all units that upgrade with a flamer), would be to introduce a slowing mechanic, much like that of the Anvil Royal Engineers, though not quite as drastic (perhaps half the speed decrease of the Sappers).
1. It would be historically relevant. You do not see guys in war reels, sprinting about with two gallons of highly volatile Napalm strapped to their back.
2. The units upgraded with flamers would still be useful versus units in green cover and garrison's.
3. Spamming flamers would seriously impact the spammer's ability to hold onto the map.
4. HMG's would have a chance to stop the attack, before being swarmed.
5. It would promote better play, and forward planning. Want to get that MG out of the church? Okay, well you better have some diversion ready, or some smoke to enable your slow-ass flamer unit to get into position.
i like the idea with flamer on riflemen would slow them down alot. it would sharpe out the role as anti garrion/cover unit, not rushing/blobbing with it thru the whole map, rather than getting 1 flamer on 1 riflemen for the anti garrion power. they dont need to be fast to clear garrisons, if the enemys leaves the house because he sees slow riflemenflamer approaching you can take it  |
Yes it is, I'm also part of the top150 2vs2 with USF, and top 50 in 4vs4 so I know well what people I'm facing are doing in those modes.
After a month of abusing ISG spam to win, many OKW players are just going back to their real rank position. But building Obers and combining and microing them with Volks and sturms? Too hard, if it doesn't work in a blob that requires too much micro!
Majority of Ostheer players can't do anything else than gren spam or ostruppen spam or pzgren spam, same at top150 2vs2 or top50 4vs4. Mixing them, using their combined force? noooo too hard!!! too much micro skill requirement.
Ostheer is probably the faction providing the most variety but you never see it in game. There is always the need of spamming one unit and whining in the fora if this unit isn't enough OP.
ye okws are getting back to their rank. as i remember coh2chart looked exactly the seem last month with OP leig llol |
Where are you getting this? Haha dude, why are you even posting random shit!
as i remember vcoh doctrins were much more about a) picking a tree side of a doctrin for early game advantage or b) wait as long as possible to counterpick. i honestly remember using all doctrins and all handsides pretty often, but we were only top 200 at team or so but watched a ton of streams and they picked them all too so.. |
Sad thing is that it almost never happens. There is always some discrepancy with this game that doesn't allow for balance and fairness. The heavy reliance of RNG also makes this game highly inconsistent.
rng is for everyone so it balance iteslf out. i was only speaking about commanders, a similiar system to vcoh would be the dream.. |
used it today.....
in all honesty the Pack Howitzer IS NOT a counter,the barrage range you speak of has TERRIBLE accuracy making it as sayed in my first post luck based,so if you ever wiped an ISG its by luck NOT cause its reliable counter,with the mortar halftruck however you can atleast fend it off
read my post, its perma bleed for him with every barrage and after barrage you can face it into the direction of battle again. worked for me but im low rank so it may not work in high elos! |
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you can outplay the leig with pak howie pretty easy, barrage range is 160 for pak howie and 100 for leig, just dont make it a auto attack duel.. |
Yeah I hate these, it's a special kind of butthurt to want something removed because it can't win the game for you.
well said  |
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just a quick throw in, 90% of community finds rifle company totally op,does relic care about that subject? there is a wide support for nerfing it. o.O |
I'll teach you some insight that will help you in life. "Whining" is a word that reveals a lot more about the person using it than it ever will about the people it's aimed at. It is the same principle as judging a person by the way he/she describes others. Since it is insulting and dismissive at the same time, regardless of the facts of the matter, the speaker will be identified as an obnoxious. If the complaints lack validity, it's "only" rude. But if the complaints have merit it looks even worse. Now you are not only arrogant and rude but also pretty ignorant/stupid.
Both options outcomes are bad because people may not tell you off, but they sure take notice of who you are and how you act, and that will affect you throughout your life.
I know I had a lot of help from people that I couldn't see coming just because they thought I was a good guy. And I know how little I am inclined to do something for the small (obnoxious) people.
pretty butthurt tbh. what about his argument about pak43? |
Not really if there is vet 2 Tiger with a range of tank destroyer 
..fair comparison( vet 0 vs vet 2 l0l? and you need atleast 10mins to vet up a tiger to vet 2). did u see vet 2 su85 machingun like firerate? jeez whats up with this forum  |
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