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Too bad when ost sniper gets nerfed for brits, it will be garbage vs soviet players.

Not every unit is useful vs. every army.

Why would you even want a second one?



It's a luxury sure, but getting to it in a normal game on average is very difficult. I see this defense of bad things a lot; because they said bad thing is good in some games rarely this means that despite it under preforming on average it's fine. If T4 is going to be the super - expensive tier then the Units in it need to be just a little bit cheaper/better.

Iv done my best to try and use the Sturmpanzer IV lately but it's horrible pathing just makes it plain useless. I spend half the time it's alive just fucking around with it trying to get it to go were I want I shoot were I want.

Again, thats not necessarily a problem with T4 pricing, but a problem with T4 units themselves. The Panther is definitely performing per cost (it is worth 1.5 Shermans and can easily do its job with support). The Brummbar on the other hand may be slightly underperforming, and the Panzerwerfer definitely is. Decreasing T4s cost will make Panthers come earlier, decreasing the viability of allied stock medium armor and will not address the underlying issue of underperforming units in the building itself.

Pathing has been and forever will be an issue with turretless units in this game. The Sturmpanzer suffers from this, but I find it quite useful with attack ground and as an infantry support unit.

The OKW Panther can hit the field quite early and it isn't OP. And considering the worse stats of the Ostheer Panther I don't really see how T4 getting a major cost reduction would really hurt much with how meh the units in the tier other than the Panther are.

I mean the Panther is a specialist tank, it's countered by AT guns and tank destroyers still have a reasonable chance to pen it's armor. I really don't feel like it hitting the field not super late in the game would impact much.

People keep saying it's a luxury, but it just feels like a chore to me.

OKW's fuel penalty ensures that that panther won't have a replacement for a long time, thats why it isn't OP. If any faction can gain the ability to build a heavy for every 1.5 mediums, it would be broken. This is why teching is a thing, to ensure that vehicles, light armor, medium armor, and heavy armor all have their respective moments of superiority. Otherwise, why not just unlock all tech buildings immediately and let everyone build what they want as thy gain the resources?

The Panther is not the only tank in T4. The Brummbar is the AI counterpart to the Panther, and it is very powerful. If you could get T4 out at the same time as you unlock T3 for example, the USF player would have no choice to rely heavily on AT platforms instead of AI. This would make Shermans lose their window of strength, and force USF players to build nothing but Jacksons to amass AT DPS. With a Jackson costing only 50 less fu than a panther, it would not be a very sustainable rate of trade, especially since USF AT guns and bazookas are less than useful in a supporting fire role against Panthers.

It absolutely is a luxury. T4 is something to unlock after you enter the late-lategame. It is there for when you are popcapped and floating fuel. It allows you to take advantage of Ostheer's superior medium armor survivability and scaling to get even better tanks out of the gate lategame.

I will admit that it is harder to get to t4. However, all tech got scaled back. T4 is more expensive because it is a special tier that gives access to nondoctrinal heavy armor. The pwerfer and arguably brummbar may be underperforming, but if the panther/ brummbar came too early, they would also break balance.

You can always tech up later in the game if you are floating fuel from not losing tanks. Allied factions don't have that choice.

Thanks for the post but I would have to say I'm against this. Reasoning being, people chose to go for larger squads like Panzer Fusiliers or Osttruppen is order to counter sniper play. If your changes were implemented then there would be no point to choosing different squads.

As for the German sniper, he needs to have a fast firing rate as allied infantry is generally cheaper to reinforce that that of axis infantry. Furthermore since he is a one man unit there is more risk involved compared with the use of a Soviet sniper.

Part of the problem is that this won't be true for much longer. Rifleman squads already cost only 2 less mp per entity to replace than grenadiers, making the Ostheer sniper amazing against USF. However, USF has 5 man squads, so they at least won't be bleeding map presence as well. The UKF however... (Everyone should go look at the released screenshots and see the British Infantry)