Am I the only one who thinks the Panzershreck needs a slight nerf?
A Panzergren blob is strong, and kills my tanks any moment the AI pathfinding screws up.
LV are pretty much shut down, and can't be countered by infantry unless equipping Brens or BARs |
one thing that would help shake up the Osttruppen and German infantry doctrine would be to buff the G43s upgrade this would bring 3 commanders back into the meta. (Elite Troops, Jaeger Infantry, and lighting war)
here's my suggestion:
G43s for Grenadiers
squad size increased from 4 to 5
squad gains 2 g43 rifles
upgrade cost increased from 45 to 60
G43s for Panzer Grenadiers
squad size increased from 4 to 5
squad gains 3 g43s rifles
upgrade cost increased from 60 to 80
G43s for Stormtroopers
squad size increased from 4 to 5
squad gains 3 g43s rifles
upgrade cost increased from 60 to 80
My dude, unless this is a bait post that I sperged and fell for, the G43 is already performing really well as is. It's able to chop down enemy infantry models quicker than most. I don't think it needs a buff, lol |
The AEC vs Puma matchup is already pretty titled with the Puma's good range and line of sight, being a concern atm |
Plenty of good ideas but a few objections as a UKF/USF main
1. Lowering the population cost of OKW tanks (especially heavy armor) seems dangerous to me, considering how much of a population strain your army will have in needed units to fight the oncoming blob and the KT coming at you.
2. The AEC is already outclassed by the Puma, if it's damage output is being reduced, it should have an increase with something else, like armor or better performance against infantry, idk.
3.I think riflemen should keep their range since they have to close the distance with Grens (unless in green cover) to win any firefight and this is putting the attacking riflemen at the disadvantage. They already require BARs in order to scale properly past the mid-game, and USF is already kinda lacking. REs are also the least helpful engineer unit combat performance-wise. |
If Ost grens are getting buffed, then I think their support weapons shouldn't be as strong as they are since the entire justification of Ost support weapons being high performance as they are will be the claims of Ost core infantry lacking in performance. Fighting an Ost Maginot line is tough as UKF if you don't lock in royal arty or lend lease, and lend lease is another doctrine that I think that could use some work since the best thing about it are the assault tommies and everything else is just... "okay" bordering mediocre. The 81mm mortar seems outclassed in my opinion. |
Meanwhile MG34 cries in the corner lol
Yeah, the 34 is kinda mediocre ngl. It seems to have the same difficulty a Vickers would have with multiple units spaced out. But at least it has that sweet big arc to compensate. |
Oh just close this nonsensical thread. MG42 is fine. It's the best MG performance wise for a reason. Pios have 42 sight for a reason. Smoke it or flank it. Or send one cheap unit to scout first. Just enough with this BS that an MG42 can solo hold an area.
I said it gives the Ost player a big edge. If you're going to put words in my mouth, go away.
As I already stated, it's not such an easy task when the MG is being spammed and covering multiple angles. This is worse in certain maps. Brits also don't have starting smoke |
You smoke before you move in, obviously.
Oversimplifications for the sake of being a passive aggressive shitbrick aside, it isn't that easy when there's always another MG42 around the corner beyond your units POV
Anyone can flank and outmaneuver an MG. It's when the MG is being spammed that makes the game frustrating and less punishing for the MG42 spammer early game. |
You guys are joking - MG42 is the lynchpin that enables the use of grenadiers; weakening it even further undermines Wehrmacht too much. Compared to maxims, which under most circumstances can simply replace line infantry, mg42 is a joke.
How? Wehrmacht has a lot of strong core units as is. The MG42 allows the ost player to lock down all the important regions of a map and maintain control, and there's little to counter that. It's kinda unfair |
Hopefully they will finally address painfully obvious balance problems such as US pak howitzer.
USF isn't in a great spot atm, I think they'd be the last faction in need of nerfs, kek |