MG42 over performing

You still don't catch a break with that because you have to side tech for smoke.

. Then you have a grenade to wipe the mg and take it after you flank!

. Then you have a grenade to wipe the mg and take it after you flank!

And its not as if USF doesn't have easy access to tons of smoke without needing to get grenades.

Oh just close this nonsensical thread. MG42 is fine. It's the best MG performance wise for a reason. Pios have 42 sight for a reason. Smoke it or flank it. Or send one cheap unit to scout first. Just enough with this BS that an MG42 can solo hold an area.

I'm not happy to say, that HMG overperforms for its price because Pios and Grens suck for their price.

I would like to see some adjustemts to Ostheer's units to allow moving LMG back to T1, or even replace it with HMG34 to make it a doc-unit or middle-late-game alternative.

But making that isn't easy, because line-up and abilities would have to be changed. Because a nerfed HMG42 would be a dead unit, with it the rest will follow. A solution would be to kill some commander units and abilities and make them non-doc. That is my opinion.

All over changes would be:

e.g.
T0:
- Osttruppen (non-doc) price up to 210. Remove T4 LMG42-upgrade, but give 2 weapon slots. Lock Osttruppen's Faust behind T2-tech and remove ability to build bunkers. That would be a bonus for Osttruppen-commanders.
- Pios get AT-grenade (like Brits)
- HMG42 removed, replaced with HMG34.
- PnzGrens

T1:
- Grens get non-doc shock-grenade, Faust lock behind T2-tech, placeholder is AT-rifle-grenade.
- Sniper (untouched)
- Mortar (untouched)

T2:
222 (untouched)
251 (untouched)
PaK40 (untouched)

etc.

But all over.. still not good... xD I would replace Osttruppen-commander's Osttruppen with some upgrades, like into T34 call-in and maybe some upgades for nerfed Osttruppen, like giving back Bunkers and upgrades.

Meanwhile MG34 cries in the corner lol

Meanwhile MG34 cries in the corner lol

That MG is no worse than any other non-doc MG. Actually it's probably the second best after the MG42.

Meanwhile MG34 cries in the corner lol

The only thing the MG34 really lags behind the 42 is in dps. Suppression speed is less then 5% apart from each other, as the MG34 compensates the lower rate of fire with a higher suppression per shot.

Oh just close this nonsensical thread. MG42 is fine. It's the best MG performance wise for a reason. Pios have 42 sight for a reason. Smoke it or flank it. Or send one cheap unit to scout first. Just enough with this BS that an MG42 can solo hold an area.

I said it gives the Ost player a big edge. If you're going to put words in my mouth, go away.
As I already stated, it's not such an easy task when the MG is being spammed and covering multiple angles. This is worse in certain maps. Brits also don't have starting smoke

Meanwhile MG34 cries in the corner lol

Yeah, the 34 is kinda mediocre ngl. It seems to have the same difficulty a Vickers would have with multiple units spaced out. But at least it has that sweet big arc to compensate.

The only thing the MG34 really lags behind the 42 is in dps. Suppression speed is less then 5% apart from each other, as the MG34 compensates the lower rate of fire with a higher suppression per shot.

the mg42 also has more reliability against cover and terrain due to higher accuracy since apparently accuracy affects suppression against cover and terrain...

The only thing the MG34 really lags behind the 42 is in dps. Suppression speed is less then 5% apart from each other, as the MG34 compensates the lower rate of fire with a higher suppression per shot.

That MG is no worse than any other non-doc MG. Actually it's probably the second best after the MG42.

Well I have advocated for a DPS or an easier vet buff to the thing in the past but as it stands, even lower dps seems to be the continued theme.