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got it... Maybe a small fuel increase. 5-10 Fuel?!

No, the thing can't carry personnel and it is far too flimsy, the only thing it's good for is to suppress in the very early game and then die.

Yes those unbeatable Soviet blobs.....

Really dude?

OKW can rely on infantry without them running around in a blob. And use your light vehicles.

Not that I agree with his proposal, you're just being dumb sweeping in here saying that OKW can only blob to win.

Dat 3x Shocktroop blob tho.

Relic already stated they want them to be a midrange combat unit, this "nerf" was to give them better utility at that range, and also a (Very small) survivability buff.

Problem with that idea there champ is that they do NOT do enough damage at midrange to deal with close combat troops or even rifle troops, they don't do enough damage period unless they are IN YOUR FREAKING FACE.

So yah, can't fill out that mid ranged role very well... they are mediocre at best.


Another glaring issue is that the Axis factions have just about zero strong close combat units as they are, which is sad because they pioneered the idea of mid to close range combat with their ingenious weapon designs from the MP-40 through to the STG-44, they were close quarters kings, and they outfitted many groups with rifles AND automatic weapons as force multipliers.

Hint:
Do exactly what soviets did against AGs in the past.

It works.

You mean bitch and moan about it until Relic crumbles to the pressure and nerfs them into the ground?

Edit: Ah! Strummingbird beat me to it!

With the recent nerf we've found that Sturmpioneers are no longer "Assault Pioneers" (Sturm = Storm or Assault in German) We've also found by graphs that they have an extremely narrow effective window against really anything before the effective ranges of other units between American Rifles and Assault Engineers / Shock Troops, really anything close quarters.



The patch notes showed that the close quarters or maximum damage range for Sturmpioneers has been adjusted to range-3 from the original range-8, while American Assault Engineers and Shocktroops were moved to a close range (read as max damage range) of range-10!

So what this tells us is that while any other SMG squad moves in to assault these former Assault Pioneers, they will have been in their max damage range 7 times over before closing in to facehugging range for 3 that the Sturmpioneers need to do effective enough damage to force them away.




This also means that if one so chose, they could have their SMG squads sitting back further and doing more damage than Sturmpioneers could! Because Max Damage at Range-10 > Max Damage at Range-3.