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Jump back to quoted post17 Nov 2015, 19:48 PMferwiner

So you build pzgrens because grens are a mp sink in your opinion? Well that's a risky theory as pzgrens are exactly the definition of mp sink in ostheer faction. They are good but situational, work only if in green cover before fight or enemy doesnt focus fire them. More than one squad is madness. On the other hand grens are much cheaper and have faust + rifle nade + same dps on long range with lmg. Whats more their damage doesnt drop as fast while they loose models. 2 model pgren squad is useless, 2 model gren squad can still deal a lot of damage.

Jump back to quoted post17 Nov 2015, 13:53 PMferwiner

Wait, how ostruppen are solution if grens are scaling bad? I mean, ostruppen are great early game but dont scale at all, grens on the other hand have problems with rifles early game but are superb late game especially in numbers.

I used ostruppen widely not only recently but for a very long time. It was always a great doctrine but it was much better before the change to tech costs, it allowed to rush ostwind or p4 really quickly. Now it still needs bypass with grens in the mid game when ostruppen are not doing their job and tanks are still not on the field. That means grens are usefull and important even when you play ostruppen.

Jump back to quoted post17 Nov 2015, 10:56 AMEsxile

It works yes, but largely counterable. The USF solution isn't a Rifle outspam but fast T1 .50 + M15/M20 + BARs.

.50 works incredibly well vs ostruppen (more models per squad, suppressed faster) and by the same logic M15. Same if you don't build your T1, you'll not have the faust to counter an aggressive M20.

BARs upgrade will make your Ostruppen completely outclassed around 6-7 minutes (if the USF player goes lieutenant first). Also let him equip Zooks if required to soft counter you Pz4.

Now it all depends on fuel control. As USF I can also go 2x.50 and save my fuel for a fast T1/T2 capt/Stuart/Atgun. And good luck to get back a fuel point if defended by a .50, you don't have the riflenade forcing you to invest in a mortar and so build T1.

So in conclusion:
Works well vs USF player going fast T2 (but it is his fault for not adapting his BO same if he see your ostruppen) but you'll be stopped if the player invest in an early heavy AI units and take from you the fuel control. You'll need mortar and other AI stuff to contain him so less ostruppen on the field.

It works now because the strat is quite new and people are slow to adapt. Not sure if it will be the case in a month or so.

Jump back to quoted post16 Nov 2015, 20:44 PMWingZero

So what do you guys suggest then? Scaling back Riflemen's current buffs will leave us with the same problem as before. Riflemen need some sort of adjustment where the USF player is not floating fuel while lacking man power late game.