800
And do u know what's the health of a panther?800.
Given how easy and cheaper it is to obtain the 85s ,I rest my case. |
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Another thing he was angry about was how effective stuka is vs rifle blob.Probably kills in a yellow patch like strafe and causes heavy casualities.He said 90% -exaggerating no doubt.
But also said soviets handle OKW easy. |
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What's the health of a t-34/85? |
Then that is your issue but I build it quite often and put it to very good use.
Well u might have some magic wand,rest of the lot just prefer tiger. |
Um, there is no Sherman Jumbo.
Oh sry,he said the 'best version of sherman' ,i though that meant jumbo. |
Is that info allowed to be released? 
I'm not alpha player...i have no obligation...plus some guy raging about massed hidden puppchens killing all his tanks leaked it on the other forum. |
People need to stop comparing new Panther to the old Panther. Old Panther was too strong and easily able to get out of trouble, as well as take a lot of punishment.
Its a mobile turreted tank destroyer. It has decent armour and hp but you cannot expect to it to win like it used to before it was nerfed. Panthers still do very well against Soviet armour. Keep it at max or close to max range as possible, because soviet guns lack penetration at range to reliably penetrate the front of a Panther, while the Panther has no issues penetrating T-34's.
Not really sure why people are saying the Brumbar is useless, far from it. It deals with infantry very well, its pretty durable and still does reasonable damage vs Soviet armour.
Panzerwerfer is fairly useless but so is the Katushya. Panzerswerfer has been the superior unit for a very long time.
Panther maybe needs a slight cost adjustment but its not as bad as you guys make out. Stop wishing it was like it was before and relarn how to use it. To quote many German players from the March patch "Adapt". You should remember that for almost the entire game, Germany has had superior armour.
There's no adapting,since we never even get this unit due to cost. |
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I think that puppchen is going to be pretty important. I'm guessing that its performance and cost will be lower than both Zis and Pak. Cost is probably going to be in the range of HMG/mortar but more than the 45mm AT gun (200 MP)
Its penetration is going to be around that of the panzershreck, and its range/accuracy is going to be better.
Around 3? by the time T-34s/Sherman 75s start spamming will probably be what the OKW will be needing.
Panzershreck: 180 max penetration, 120 damage. Range: 35
My guess:
Puppchen: 180 max pen, 120 damage, Range: 50
Sherman apparently has 480 health,with sherman jumbo 640. |
But one panther doesn't cost ~400 fuel.
Unless you know a way to put to combat these battle phases and tier buildings, the tiering cost isn't relevant when talking units performance, otherwise following that logic Panther should be able to two shoot old Tiger Ace.
Panther isn't really viable for 1v1, but then again, it never was in the first place.
The tiering cost is relevant because without paying that i can't make the unit.No unit..no performance to speak of.
And no panther used to be viable for 1 vs 1,not the top choice for every game..but very viable.Now its almost non viable in any form. |
3 T34s are 300 fuel.
Panther is 175.
2 T34 are 200 fuel+doctrinal support.
And you should have at least 2 paks, so why they were not facing advancing T34s?
Don't act like Panther is all you have on the field.
1 panther requires ~400 fuel.
Also t-34s can kill infantry.Secondly ..he too will have zis/guards,not just t-34s.
Thirdly....the teching price for germans will take up heavy MP drain,plus atleast one cache..if u make too much AT u will be overrun.Teching for sov is not as manpower intensive. |
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