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Thread: SU-76 buff? 4 Aug 2021, 08:33 AM Jump back to quoted post4 Aug 2021, 02:58 AMAtomicgandhi I mainly play Teamgames, but here's my 2 cents: I think it could warrant another mobility buff, mainly to acceleration and rotation. That would cement it as an alternate tank destroyer for the soviets; a nimble speedster. Maybe also reduce its barrage cooldown to 10 seconds after barrage finishes. That would allow it to fulfill the Multirole tag line a bit better. (as long as you feed it Munitions) This way depending on your playstyle you get to choose: Do you want Recon+ a rugged pile of DPS and HP? SU85 Do you want speed and mobility, and Muni barrages? Su76. Do you want a heavy-TD multirole? ISU152 Like how Axis players can choose between Tank Destroyers (stug/miniJag), Panthers, heavy TD (elephant/BigJag), soviet players would also have 3 choices for anti-tank playstyle. Yeah I've also come around to the idea of making it more agile as opposed to increasing its AT. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: How does the AI make decisions?2 Aug 2021, 14:37 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Jul 2021, 12:37 PMWings0fred I’m curious what drives the decision making for the AI. Seems to me that the AI has 3 objectives: 0. Build order: produce units and upgrade tiers to get better units 1. cap nearby uncapped / hostile points 2. engage enemies it finds along the way 3. insert navigation commands into its decision tree in response to player pings And there is a weighting or priority to its moves... 1. main rollout plan gets high weighting 2. responding to player action gets low weighting ... and forces are allocated according to weighting. The decisions would probably be made via api calls and handled on the backend as opposed to being done client-side, which leads to weird things like tanks circling in place while eating AT shots. As far as decision making goes, it probably builds a decision behaviour tree. An entity (e.g. a rifleman) would 'move' to 'a point'. If it finds an enemy it would attack. So commands like 'move' and 'attack' are branches in the tree. The commands would be added when enemies enter an entity's vision radius (los). I don't think it has a very advanced strategic layer, in that it doesn't really care what the opposition's army size is or how many VP they have, it'll still just resort to adding commands to the tree. Could be wrong but this is what it looks like to me. I'd much rather see an AI with entity behaviour that's derived from an overall strategic awareness and for battlefield awareness to be moved to backend services to allow better performance. For comparison, the average rando human teammate seems to have 2 objectives: 1. camp a single point and defend it until they lose a unit, then drop game 2. play coh2 until losing first engagement, then drop game Up to you to decide which intelligence is superior. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: SU-76 buff? 2 Aug 2021, 11:28 AM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2021, 10:48 AMHannibal With CoH3 (and even AoE4) on the horizon, Relic will surely cease support for CoH2 soon, and reworking both TDs is risky and might need another 2 patches. Is that your stance on all coh2 balance changes then? Which type of buff would you suggest for the SU76 then? - Mobility? Will set it apart from the SU85 for sure. Overall I'd assume it will be hard to do because the SU76 is a casemate. I assume this will also scale very differently depending on the mode, but that's a general issue with casemates. Yeah. It'd need faster turns and better acceleration. - Damage to I assume 160? This will make it a supreme choice over the SU85 for mediums. The only way I could see this happening is an unlock for the SU76 at T4 which also costs fuel. However, this increases overlap of both units. It wouldn't need to be 160, could be less, with still more gained in vet. Almost like it is now, but more damage. - Timing? Not a big fan personally. This does not change the fact that Soviets to not need an AT vehicle early on. If there is no need to build it early and the ZiS/SU85 cover your late game, no amount of timing changes will do well enough for this unit. Agreed. To make it short: I don't think AT capabilities will really fix the issue. Current Soviets need AI when T3 is build, so the only way to make any unit worth building at this time point is by giving it AI. Which is why I'd like it to behave like a mini Stug E. Or at least lower the cost of the barrage or something. Agreed again. I could see it going to having a gun like the Stuart, and then also a barrage ability that cost muni. Maybe it'd see more play if people didn't think it was an AT unit and it was a bit more versatile. Would it create overlap with t70? No, because T70 has a far better AI gun. Would a discount be in order, for its reduced AT damage? Possibly. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76 buff? 2 Aug 2021, 08:46 AM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2021, 08:43 AMmrgame2 i am also believer of the timing most 1v1 2v2 will get the t70 earlier and that pushes back su76 for aggressive map control. you can go for fast su76 but there are no axis tanks for it at that timings. therefore su76 is fine as a fall back, just like stug. su76 got many buffs in recent, more so than stug. seems a good spot without stacking the strong soviet composition I agree with most of this; the t70 is a crutch for the faction and su76 doesn't get a chance. However I don't think su76 is fine, even as a fall back, because the zis is always a better choice if you went t70. In my mind, I want the su76 to be good when: 1. I want to supplement my zis gun with a flanking AT unit 2. I've gone heavy into incendiary and barrage tactics and want more of that 3. I want a long range, mobile AT that can stay in the back lines (1) is gonna happen the most often, (2) will be rare, and (3) is a desperation move because Zis and Su85 are better. So maybe I want it to be a better flanking unit. It has a hard time with this currently: 1. it has low health 2. It can't reverse out of trouble quickly enough 3. it turns slowly Of course, a simple AT damage buff would solve a lot of problems without going down this particular rabbit hole. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76 buff? 2 Aug 2021, 08:33 AM Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2021, 16:09 PMHannibal The SU76 is mostly a victim of its own faction. It's AT is not needed at the time it comes out, buffing the AT means it will become too similar to the SU85 (which basically is a ZiS on wheels already). At the same time Soviets already have two AI vehicles in T3. Without changing the infantry pacing, I'd probably still prefer StuG E like unit and completely remove the AT vehicle of T3. That would be at least unique to Soviets, whereas another AT upgrade makes it pretty much an SU85 if the upgrade is supposed to be useful. I kinda see where you're coming from, which allows me to disagree. Increasing su76 AT damage doesn't make it too similar to an su85. That logic is like saying that the stug is similar to a JP. Just because SU76 and SU85 are in the same faction, doesn't mean that they're too similar, or will be too similar if their performance is tweaked. They are distinct, and at the same time, the Su76 is currently a bit weak at AT. If the Su76 is meant to be a flanking unit, but is casemate, then it should perform like one (agility, speed etc). If its meant to remain static mainly and fire into the enemy's front armour, then it needs better damage to be relevant. edit: for example, I think even a luchs could rush a su76, get behind it and take it out. I can see a 222 doing the same. That makes it a weak AT unit. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76 buff? 2 Aug 2021, 08:20 AM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2021, 08:18 AMmrgame2 it has increasd AT on vet already. unless we drop its range from 60 to 50 i guess? Nah, no compromises are required in this case. Just a straight AT damage buff wouldn't be OP. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76 buff? 2 Aug 2021, 07:51 AM SU76 vs puma is an interesting comparison - I'd choose the puma every time. Su76 is more akin to the stug G, but the stug would win most of the time 1v1. I can imagine Su-76 spam dying horribly to a few mines and AT guns. Now that the barrage has a cost, that itself isn't spammable either. In short, it is currently not a spammable unit. I like the unit and think it's useful in its current iteration, and I also think that increasing its AT damage would NOT make it OP. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Base building automatons15 Jul 2021, 11:53 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2021, 08:59 AMCrecer13 I agree here, this is an important point in the game, especially for the Soviets: either you build T1 / T2 but lose some control over the map or build only the infantry and have more control and more infantry on the map but no support. well thank f that won't be a thing in coh3 In: COH3 Central
Thread: The devs did it again... Buffed B4 into the heaven24 Jun 2021, 17:42 PM People hate b4 because it's better than it was. End of thread. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PTRS Penals and Soviet vs Ostheer balance24 Jun 2021, 17:32 PM 4v4 noob blobbers complaining about ptrs being too strong and happily ignoring what happens when 4 t34s slam their mg42, or conversely, when 3 stukas hit their mortar pit... Lol who cares about context right?! People scraping the bottom of the effluent barrel in this thread. Trolls as usual. In: COH2 Balance