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math time
Thanks for the info, i appreciate it.
And do you not see it? Players spamming Engineers? They will have like, 4 on the field, they wreck havoc
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I always did penals, but how can you cope with less map presence and high replenishment costs?
Would 3 penals, and 2 cons work well?
ANd with the penals shall i make the AT or keep them on fighting infantry and call in guards?
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Replays and stating which game mode you play can give a better perspective about what your issues are.
Unless you check every single time the rank of your opponents after a match, it's hard to gauge if the match was balanced "skillwise". CELO is a nice tool to have if you want to know your opponents.
https://www.coh2.org/topic/84257/useful-interesting-threads-2-0
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Axis isnt OP if SOV decides to go T1 and abuse penals....
But the maxim is a different story and is in need of a PROPER buff.... the issue here is a combination of a l2p issue and newbies playing with the underpowered aspect of the soviets (T2 core)... as said before... abuse crutch units and sov will have no problems
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Thanks for the info, i appreciate it.
And do you not see it? Players spamming Engineers? They will have like, 4 on the field, they wreck havoc
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Tbh that is one of the worst possible builds I can think of. Even getting a 2nd sturmpio is relatively uncommon and off-meta.
Are you playing 4 v 4? Maybe it's possible in such game modes to spam sturmpioneers and be the designated team "repair guy", I dunno.
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No need to play to allies 
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-If you do regular sacrifices to the RNG-Gods, try B4s
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As someone who plays mostly 3v3/4v4 I think that every faction has aspects which are unbalanced in a vacuum. Sometimes they are outright OP such the JLI issue a few months back.
On the whole though I think balance is in a good state, especially compared to how it has been in the past.
The main issues at the moment are the maxim is still in a weird place and not worth buying most of the time. You're better of stealing MG42s.
Light vehicles and (non premium) Mediums have a limited window of use in larger games as everyone tends to rush for panthers and the TDs to counter them.
Non doctrinal rocket artillery is vital in team games where blobbing is rampant. The USF and UKF can suffer heavily if they pick the wrong doctrine.
Conscripts seem to be more convoluted than ever with arguable results.
I'd say now that the main balance issues stem from the maps rather than the factions, as some maps lend themselves heavily to forward retreat points. Other maps are simply too small for 4v4.
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Just join the German forces, we have better tanks and cookies
Well...some more serious advice now..
-shock troops are terminators
-good sniper play makes ostheer players cry
-t70 is a little gozilla
-t85 tank is good at hunting down bunnies
-forget about the Geneva convention and start to lay MINES!
-If you do regular sacrifices to the RNG-Gods, try B4s
Good luck with the Ivans and Vladimirs
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Against okw, you should try the following build if you want to play cons:
Conscript>Combat Engineer>Conscript>Conscript
Ever since the combat engineer buff, you can count them in the early game as a 4 man conscript squad in terms of combat prowless(even better, they have a normal recieve accuracy instead of the negative conscript have)
The mindset of this builds its all about allocating resources.
OKW has an important gap between their 1st and 2nd volksgrenadier, while you can crank this soviet build order almost non stop. This is important because we can seek out engagements and quite posibly win them by resource allocation.
The first conscript should go on the same side your first engineer unit goes. You want them to find a key point to build barricades while their fellow engis cap the surrounding points, always ready to come in the help of the conscripts.
The second combat engineer goes for the other side of the map, with caution. They are proving the area for axis units and should not engage offesively until the second conscript squad its close enough to help (this will make the enemy commit their units into an engagement you can tip in your favor)
The third and final conscript squad should come in the aid of the side in need. At this point an engeener must go back to the base and build T2. When pressured, okw players commit all their units to the same side and by this point he already has the 3 standard volks and teching up grenades, which counters the key element that tips conscripts over volks, the cover.
That's all, you can go from there. Just remember. Conscript play is all about trading with the enemy. If you can't win an engagement just retreat instead of wasting manpower
Remember the numbers:
Conscript: 20mp
Combat Engineers: 21mp
Volks: 25mp
Sturms: 30 mp
Better manpower conservation, the more it can be spent on support weapons or elite units
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I always did penals, but how can you cope with less map presence and high replenishment costs?
Would 3 penals, and 2 cons work well?
ANd with the penals shall i make the AT or keep them on fighting infantry and call in guards?
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I do play quite a few 4v4 and 3v3.
My 4v4 rank is a lot higher compared to the others so i guess so
T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
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