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Fallshirmjager poll
23 Sep 2019, 08:10 AM
#1
Posts: 246
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soviets
23 Sep 2019, 09:37 AM
#2
Posts: 556
I think people will come here begging for overnerfs. Just make them a 360-70mp squad and thats it.
Grens are finally good.
23 Sep 2019, 09:42 AM
#3
Posts: 246
Actually this thread only for data collection. Pls beg for nerfs/buffs in another thread.
UAsoviets
23 Sep 2019, 15:12 PM
#4
Posts: 184
They are fine for as long as USF are OP
23 Sep 2019, 15:42 PM
#5
Posts: 2358
To begin with, OP should know that the forums is not a big enough sample and very biased aswell. 30+ votes are needed just to determine a standard variation if they all vary too much the sample is meaningless because it proves nothing. 100+ votes just to get a small majority but again pointless because game balance is not based on democracy (contrary to some nasty people thinking) and finally worthless the effort because the topic was already discussed in another thread, better go read it OP
23 Sep 2019, 15:47 PM
#6
Posts: 1954
What distrofio said, plus:
Your poll is flawed. Most people would say that they're overperforming but it isn't just a matter of price. Check out the other threads.
Your poll is flawed. Most people would say that they're overperforming but it isn't just a matter of price. Check out the other threads.
23 Sep 2019, 18:04 PM
#7
Posts: 3423 | Subs: 1
Polls are not meaningless. If the balance forum is "too small a sample size" then the opinions on discussion threads are just as worthless
You get even fewer opinions in discussions than you do votes in polls. That doesn't mean that every poll is perfectly accurate, but saying it's meaningless is also not true
You get even fewer opinions in discussions than you do votes in polls. That doesn't mean that every poll is perfectly accurate, but saying it's meaningless is also not true
23 Sep 2019, 19:30 PM
#8
Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2
To begin with, OP should know that the forums is not a big enough sample and very biased aswell. 30+ votes are needed just to determine a standard variation if they all vary too much the sample is meaningless because it proves nothing. 100+ votes just to get a small majority but again pointless because game balance is not based on democracy (contrary to some nasty people thinking) and finally worthless the effort because the topic was already discussed in another thread, better go read it OP
Polls are not meaningless. If the balance forum is "too small a sample size" then the opinions on discussion threads are just as worthless
You get even fewer opinions in discussions than you do votes in polls. That doesn't mean that every poll is perfectly accurate, but saying it's meaningless is also not true
Both of you are correct.
The best analogy would be a thermometer. It can give you a rough analysis of how the patient feels, but it doesn't determinate the causes or effects that it is producing it.
Also, the poll is flawed in the options it is given.
Will close the thread in couple of days (if this is still a the top) so please use other thread to give feedback on falls. Just use this to vote if you want.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
23 Sep 2019, 20:58 PM
#9
Posts: 1979
I would just turn falls into commando clones and be done with it
23 Sep 2019, 21:00 PM
#10
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
I would just turn falls into commando clones and be done with it
Because what this game needs is to kill any diversity and just mirror everything.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
23 Sep 2019, 21:05 PM
#11
Posts: 1979
Because what this game needs is to kill any diversity and just mirror everything.
Well they have to lose their utility... you cant have a high dps squad with a nukenade stealth and faust... i propose removing 2 out of its 4 advantages
24 Sep 2019, 14:26 PM
#12
Posts: 246
To begin with, OP should know that the forums is not a big enough sample and very biased aswell. 30+ votes are needed just to determine a standard variation if they all vary too much the sample is meaningless because it proves nothing. 100+ votes just to get a small majority but again pointless because game balance is not based on democracy (contrary to some nasty people thinking) and finally worthless the effort because the topic was already discussed in another thread, better go read it OP
But i can make such poll in every forum, thank you very much!
UAsoviets
24 Sep 2019, 14:29 PM
#13
Posts: 246
Both of you are correct.
The best analogy would be a thermometer. It can give you a rough analysis of how the patient feels, but it doesn't determinate the causes or effects that it is producing it.
Also, the poll is flawed in the options it is given.
Will close the thread in couple of days (if this is still a the top) so please use other thread to give feedback on falls. Just use this to vote if you want.
Flawed? I was trying to keep things simple.
UAsoviets
24 Sep 2019, 16:17 PM
#14
Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2
Flawed? I was trying to keep things simple.
Simple would be OP, UP and fine. You are narrowing the issue to a price problem.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
24 Sep 2019, 16:57 PM
#15
Posts: 249
Falls are simply overperforming for their current cost, but that does not mean that falls are wrongly priced. Falls could retain their current MP cost, but have reduced stats(which were buffed in the last patch) in order to be more balanced.
How to properly fix falls is another question. Perhaps i'll make a different thread for that purpose; one that is focused on making suggestions, prefferably without having it derailed by pulling in entire factions arsenals for the comparison.
Precisely this. +1
How to properly fix falls is another question. Perhaps i'll make a different thread for that purpose; one that is focused on making suggestions, prefferably without having it derailed by pulling in entire factions arsenals for the comparison.
Simple would be OP, UP and fine. You are narrowing the issue to a price problem.
Precisely this. +1
25 Sep 2019, 05:04 AM
#16
Posts: 246
Simple would be OP, UP and fine. You are narrowing the issue to a price problem.
My bad
UAsoviets
27 Sep 2019, 07:43 AM
#17
Posts: 246
So maybe i was wrong with my poll, but balance team fixed falls with little cost increase and a bugfix (veterancy was applied not correctly)
https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/comment/286479#Comment_286479
https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/comment/286479#Comment_286479
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